https://londonlovesbusiness.com/ire...s-after-queen-approves-parliament-suspension/ Looks like it's dawning on Ireland that Boris means business.
Ah yes, the good old civil disobedience, how very daring and likely a thoroughly good day out for them all Ironic because it's been the left wing & MSN citing there would be civil disobedience by 'the plebs' who voted leave when the eventual horrors of brexit truly take form, and also thoroughly disingenuous because this lot aren't protesting about the proguing, they're protesting because it might actually get brexit done, one way or another. I presume the picture used is like a where's wally book? Somewhere in that lot is Mr protest himself, JC, frothing at the mouth
So you want to remove Article 11 of the Human Rights now? Very democratic, typical extreme right wing point of view. There are people out there that don't want Brexit done ONE way or ANOTHER let them be seen and heard it's their right.
they were heard and had a truly democratic chance over 3 years ago..... and lost a vote! So lets be truly democratic and instigate that vote for the majority...and leave!
meh, just think of all the overtime. a whole show on bojo and not a single bad word said about him. from 6mins interesting stuff. https://www.rt.com/shows/alex-salmond-show/467522-parliamentary-fireworks-halloween-brexit/
One way or another obviously ok for you and me, my point was about respecting other peoples Human Rights.
Good attempt at putting words in my mouth but alas, no, i don't want to remove any articles or rights. And you, well, you're just hiding behind the classic 'human rights' statement to try and add weight to your protest. The difference with what your saying, and what they're doing, is you're citing their right to continue to protest against Brexit in general and that would at least be honest for them to say, if not a continuation of a point blank refusal to accept anyone else vote over theirs. Whereas what they're actually doing is trying to whip up a frenzy and justify civil disobediance, backed by senior Labour MP's (Barry Gardiner for one) pretending its all due to the proroguing of Parliament for a short time. Its everyones right indeed to protest, but its also nothing short of a smoke screen to justify to the world their continued wish to ignore the original vote, and for labour they just want chaos as its their only chance of getting power such is their level of ineptitude On a slightly off topic note; Regards Labour MP's, and the main man himself, all they have done over the last 3 years is stifle any & all opportunities to make Brexit work and have solely focused on simply getting in to power come what may. 'JC' as me, you and the whole country knows has been the most evasive and non committal politician in living memory on an issue that needed clarity, he's done everything he can to try and engineer himself in to a position to gain power first and foremost, and then come clean about his true Brexit feelings second. A pretty deceitful man by all accounts. Ive said it before and ill say it again; I'd happily vote Labour with a different leader and senior team in place, the ones currently in situ are out of touch, ignorant, disingenuous and above all a bunch of fucking crack pots, not my words but the words of the majority of the country (paraphrasing 'fucking crack pots') Given the supposed 'view of the people' being against Brexit, or even a hard Brexit, and they all apparently hate the Tories, how in gods name can JC be trailing BJ by such a huge margin if he was even remotely capable of leading the labour party, let alone the country? This from the the leftist of most leftist rags available - https://www.theguardian.com/comment...lection-victory-yougov-tories-tactical-voting "Boris Johnson is beating Jeremy Corbyn by 40% to 20% when it comes to public opinion on who would make the best prime minister. He is now the clear favourite going into a potential autumn election, and these numbers would translate into a very comfortable Conservative majority."
Ironic because it's been the left wing & MSN citing there would be civil disobedience by 'the plebs' who voted leave when the eventual horrors of brexit truly take form, and also thoroughly disingenuous because this lot aren't protesting about the proguing, they're protesting because it might actually get brexit done, one way or another. . the straw that broke the camels back i think its the words of the Gov and press that are coming back to haunt them. the vast majority of the press is pro brexit, over 80% by readership. you cant deny the language they use to describe most remain voters, much of which is reproduced on here. and you cant deny it's human nature to fight back. as you see reproduced on here. . on another question a few years back i never visited an alternative website before the vote, i didnt trust them. all my info was gathered from traditional sources, it was their language that pushed me to Yes. and its their language since that has kept me firmly there.
Short memory? From the same "leftist rag". https://www.theguardian.com/politic...may-no-election-is-risk-free-brexit-divisions
Whipping up a frenzy and civil disobedience where and when ? Not to say it wont happen you are too much into the media and stats Damo, there is a ground swell and i fear some real shit will happen, as for being happy to vote Labour with a different Leader why has it not happened ? Maybe JC is the one that can engineer (your words) a Labour victory i don't know.
To be fair - your post alludes to the Guardian election views/ prospects being "on the money" when quite clearly they were not even close last time! I will ask the editor next time I see him.
Personally, and it's only an educated guess, I believe the decision to open up the membership and reduce the fee encouraged the base to grow, Just by a different and further left member type. This new support base has hand tied the ability for the labour mps dissatisfied with him to remove him, which they attempted on more than one occasion. The issue is some of the tactics started to backfire when Corbyns only clarity on brexit was his refusal to add clarity. Now he's stuck in no man's land, as they all are. Who can take over? In my view none from his senior team. There must be someone more centrist, but until he gets another drubbing in an election it's unlikely hats will get thrown in the ring, and that's a pity because the country dearly needs quality opposition.
I'm merely giving a link to a report by a leftist paper on a recent yougov opinion poll, unless there's a different poll out there which puts JC ahead I can only work with what the majority of people look towards, that's yougov isn't it? Maybe JC is tearing it up on some polls, but I doubt they'd be about leadership of the country, I may be wrong though
Lets wait & see the results of the next election. The latest news from north of the border (Ruth & Shetland results) could have a significant impact on Tory prospects affecting their eight seats and potential to win an election. I expect the next government will be a coalition whether any of us like it or not. Who could Bojo pull support from to bolster his party into office? Then consider the same scenario for Corbyn?
The language used by both sides is often very similar, and done exactly what you say in cementing opinions. I guess it depends what you read and how popular those sources are. Believe it or not I only truly scour two MSN websites, one being the BBC and the other being the Guardian, neither what you'd call right wing or hate inciting, until you read the comments section of the Guardian and see how leave voters are described daily, now that's quite eye opening and rather unhelpful when you would presume some would try to take the moral stance and show a level of understanding or acceptance......not the case unfortunately Yes occasionally my flipboard app pulls in other sources (it's a news app so kinda designed that way) The main issue is and always was the TV media reporting, that's what I've noticed most and I must say that the big guns of Sky news and BBC have both consistently been substantially more remain sided peddling stats and experts to induce fear than anything else. It kinda ruins my morning ritual of work emails and coffee with the TV on in the background....sky news really has dropped off in terms of unbiased and accurate reporting
