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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Wonder what all those people complaining about the “Mickey Mouse” Scottish Court are saying now?
     
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  2. something along the lines of boohoo, waaa waaa waaaaaa,
     
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  3. So, the take-away from this is:

    Although British Independence has not been found unlawful, per se …

    … any actions that might lead to it are unlawful.

    Just cutting to the chase, as it were. Obviously, at this stage in the proceedings, you can consider my suggestion to be nonsense ... and yet, there is an air if inevitability, is there not?

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    Anyhoot, for any Brexiteer who is paying attention, this result is irrelevant.
    Proroguing Parliament was not a Clean Break Brexit tactic but a May WA 2.0 tactic. This way works out much better, as BoJob can now not only BrINO with a shabby, useless "Deal" but also claim victimhood status - "I tried folks, but those bullies in the Supreme Court, they done me wrong!".
     
  4. any actions that might lead to it are unlawful.
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    not any actions. just unlawful ones.
     
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  5. I still think this is the plan, however, is there not also the possibility of GE being called to stumble over 31st October?
     
  6. Of course, now being found to have acted illegally it's quite likely that the Tories can call for a no confidence vote in BoJo and force a GE?
     
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  7. Many things are possible. Bojob might even be a true Leaver. You never know.

    However, Parliament won't allow a GE if that means a WTO-exit happens as a result. I foresee some astonishing political gymnastics with an extension beyond 31 Oct being the most likely outcome.
     
  8. Indeed. However, with Labour, LibDems and SNP MPs loyally supporting the UK PM in record numbers … this will go nowhere either : o D
     
  9. Meanwhile..........................

    .....we still haven't left...............

    .........other than the Left.
     
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  10. This is fantastic news, if ever you needed "the establishment versus the people" over brexit, this is the icing on the cake.

    It is things like this that will see more leavers than ever, turn up to vote for those parties who will offer a clean break.
     
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  11. iF u dunt liek r laws U kan leaf R cuntry
     
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  12. You must come from the Basildon/Southend end of Essex :D
     
  13. No need to be rude, noobie.
     
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  14. Not quite, but I was born in Suffolk so living in Essex is a step UP the evolutionary ladder ;)
     
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  15. Trust me, that's a compliment!
     
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  16. So the Supreme Court has delivered its brutal verdict. The prorogation of Parliament was completely unlawful and now, in effect, never happened. Parliament is officially still in session. The same Parliament that has stupendously failed to solve Brexit for three years can reconvene and continue to fail to solve it. What now?

    Jeremy Corbyn stood up a few minutes ago at the Labour conference and demanded that Boris Johnson stand down immediately and hold a general election, as did several other opposition leaders. Which, alert readers may recall, is what Johnson tried to do, twice, barely a fortnight ago, and was blocked by the opposition.

    Presumably if he tries again, they all now have to cooperate and vote for it, even though the dissolution of Parliament would render the Benn bill requiring him to ask the EU for an extension first null and void. So there’ll be a general election held on the subject of “Who rules the country – the people or the courts?”, which is what Johnson wanted all along. Um, victory?

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    PS Fun trivia fact: UK electoral law requires 25 working days between the dissolution of Parliament and the date of a general election. There are exactly 27 working days (inclusive) between now and 31 October.
     
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  17. Which is what I said before, if you are a leaver, this will be a massive boost for the them an us claim
     
  18. Had you read the reasoning for the decision fin that Pete just posted up and at the very bottom

    71. Thus the Advocate General’s appeal in the case of Cherry is dismissed and Mrs Miller’s appeal is allowed. The same declarations and orders should be made in each case
     
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