Once again, your response is a sixth form debate level of analysis - “but democracy good, m’kay” - not to mention that your version of democracy is extremely narrow, singular and also incorrect. It’s clear that explanation and debate is pointless though because both involve being receptive to ideas. However, having had every supposed benefit of Brexit exposed as the lies they were, all you are left with is a rigid ideology which is so important to your sense of self worth that you shut your eyes and ears to reality. Deal will follow quite quickly? Are you serious? You surely can’t really believe that, or if you do, it’s obvious you just don’t have the intellectual machinery to appreciate the complexity of the situation.
Morning Zhed You’ll have to excuse my debating style I don’t think it even reaches 6th form.. point I tried to make is simple, if anyone goes to buy anything and someone has tipped off the seller’s are prepared to pay the price will only go up. Given the reports of MPs, even possibly the speaker colluding with members of the eu then that could possibly be the case. If on the other hand a United front was presented the deal would of been easier.. what’s the definition of high treason?
Yes I feel the key parts of a deal will follow shortly to allow day to day interaction with the more contensious parts taking longer. the backstop is a blocking aid and not a deal aid Let me show you why your continual condescending tone is based on ignorance because you are a remainer. The backstop is a trade agreement and not a security agreement. The eu would have you believe that multinationals and foreign countries are going to use the U.K. to bypass rules on, well anything when it involves trade. Think on that for a moment, the eu thinks to get goods into the eu through the backdoor, other countries are going to deliver goods to the u.k., then have it moved to northern ireland, to then move through to southern ireland to then take back into the u.k. but with an eu sticker on, to then go through the U.K. and back out to the eu again. This ignores the border checks on ireland to the uk the french/dutch/belgium side for goods coming through the u.k. and be honest, how much trade do you think will be put through the u.k. to then go to northern ireland to then go through the republic to then go through the u.k. again before it goes back onto uk europe? it's a joke, a falsehood by the way zed, have you heard of Sir John Grant McKenzie Laws
in the same way you thank russion oligarths for bumping up the land prices in london? or the same way you thank the areas outwith london and the S/E that subsidize your civil service and also bump up land prices?. .
I don't personally no, the idea a single mum with 3 kids and on benefits is fighting for the same accomodation as a russian billionaire is the stuff made by idiots, I give you https://labour.org.uk/
For info, Balmedie has been a building site for over 10 years, Trumpy's golf course (just north of Balmedie at Menie estate) hasn't yet made money (not fact checked but believed), he was going to build a huge feck off hotel there about 10 years ago for golf fans (not a sod of turf cut yet) building houses is his company's only hope of making a return (as POTUS he can't have any business interests personally) and was always in the plan as well as the 2nd golf course. Unfortunately for Trumpy cycling is the new golf and Aberdeenshire is graced with gazillions of quiet roads with hills and scenery and coffee shops - all sorts of pusbiker heaven - not many will want to cross the new A90 dual carriageway to go to Trumpy's posh restaurant sweating and dressed in lycra for coffee and cake on a pushbike. I predict tears
And failing to understand that inflation at the top end of the market affects the entire market, including the bottom, is also “the stuff of idiots”. Briefly and very simplified. If lots of Russian oligarchs are buying flats in Mayfair, that inflates the market for those properties. Which means, in turn, means that eg: hedge fund managers are priced out of that market and so they migrate to the next most desirable areas which also then experiences an increase in prices. That influx of hedge fund managers into that sub-market causes prices to go up which then excludes eg: the footballers from that market, meaning they need to look elsewhere......and so on, which causes a cascade effect which ripples all the way down to the very bottom. This has been explained already, but in common with the explanations about the difference between representative and direct democracy, the non-binding nature of referenda, constitutional law, judicial review generally and Miller 2 specifically, it just bounces off.
This is bolloxs of course but hey, if you are correct, let me know when an auction happens and I can watch a billionaire ogliarch and a single mum on benefits with three kids bidding on the same property, might be fun to watch this often claimed competition that no one has ever seen, they be like the sasquatch In the meantime, did you see my post 39305, a few up, i'd value your condescension on that too
I tend to agree and have said here and elsewhere that the negotiating tactics adopted by TM when she was PM were dreadful. However blaming Remainers for that is ridiculous and just another tactic designed to shut down debate (which in itself is highly undemocratic). The UK was never going to get the “cake and eat it” deal the Leave campaign promised. Not even close. For one thing, it would have been insane for the EU to let the UK leave on such terms as it would encourage other countries to do the same. I’m utterly astonished that anyone with even a modicum of life experience and common sense fell for it tbh. Leavers in many respects act like children. They demand the impossible, play dangerous games regardless of the likely outcome, throw tantrums when they don’t get their own way and they can’t take responsibility for their actions, so will try to blame everyone else for the mess they’ve created. As I fear we are going to find to our collective cost, Leavers have largely been led by the nose by an elite class (albeit different to the one they despise) of robber barons into voting for Brexit by entirely false economic promises and the hijacking of their emotions. We are presently witnessing what amounts to an attempted right wing coup dressed up as a defence of democracy, using a rather simple but charismatic buffoon who would say or do anything to hold high office as a front man.
See you’ve done it again. I’ve just explained that although billionaires and single mums don’t compete for the same properties the actions of the former trickle down to the bottom of the market. Unfortunately though, it’s like talking to the wall and doubtless if this farce of a debate were to continue you would just repeat the same erroneous point ad nauseam until the Earth is swallowed by the sun.
A government trying to apply a democratic vote is a right wing coup in your eyes but a collective blocking that democratic vote with the help of an external trading block, lock down a government and appoint a "temporary unity government" is not a coup? Mao would be so proud
