Can you tell me what capital city does not have such varying housing prices and do they all have russian olgiarchs and single mums with three kids competing for the same penthouse appartments? cheers post 39305, when you get a minute
I actually did read it but had no idea how it was related to my original point, which was “leaving with no deal and/or no or a poor solution to the border/backstop risks a very fragile peace where men of violence are looking for an excuse to take up arms again”
I know of and in fact have met him on several occasions, albeit a long time ago. What point are you trying to make?
I saw his name recently in a place I would have not expected, apparently he is Dominic Cummings uncle
How unfortunate for him. But how is that related to the point I made about no deal potentially reigniting the Troubles?
But she is a remainer and if leavers are childish (like Greta Truentgirl) then remainders are molluscs in comparison
As ever, you haven’t clarified in the slightest and your arguments about my claim that no deal could reignite the Troubles were so poorly thought out to be almost non-existent
I fear your lack of comprehension maybe your head is up your own arse and may have missed the key elements, however I am here to help so don't mind helping those who struggle There is nothing to re-ignite, it never went away, it went quiet because whilst the gfa was valueable, it failed to stop those who seek to use the gun instead of the ballot box. The "re-igniting" over a trade agreement is unlikely and a falsehood created by the likes of the republics government and parties like sinn fien who could let's be honest, control the ira, the real ira, the let's do a hokey cokey ira and the lets pretend we all knew martin mcguiness ira. it's a falsehood put forward by the eu and the irish government Yes I feel the key parts of a deal will follow shortly to allow day to day interaction with the more contensious parts taking longer. the backstop is a blocking aid and not a deal aid Let me show you why your continual condescending tone is based on ignorance because you are a remainer. The backstop is a trade agreement and not a security agreement. The eu would have you believe that multinationals and foreign countries are going to use the U.K. to bypass rules on, well anything when it involves trade. Think on that for a moment, the eu thinks to get goods into the eu through the backdoor, other countries are going to deliver goods to the u.k., then have it moved to northern ireland, to then move through to southern ireland to then take back into the u.k. but with an eu sticker on, to then go through the U.K. and back out to the eu again. This ignores the border checks on ireland to the uk the french/dutch/belgium side for goods coming through the u.k. and be honest, how much trade do you think will be put through the u.k. to then go to northern ireland to then go through the republic to then go through the u.k. again before it goes back onto uk europe? it's a joke, a falsehood
Only if you’re beloved EU council wish it to be so tyrants the lot of them. Don’t give in to bullies dude, it’s beneath you
Your argument is baseless because while what you have said about the backstop being a trade agreement rather than a security agreement is correct, it proceeds from an extremely naive and incorrect assumption that the men of violence will view a change in the current border arrangements in the same narrow and technical sense that you do. They simply don’t think that way and that is why any change to the status quo in a very fragile peace is dangerous. Your simplistic reasoning is either based on ignorance of how things work over there or is just another example of how extreme Leavers like you blatantly deny reality in order to support a course of action which risks all sorts of extremely adverse outcomes, because (much like the hardliners in NI) you are driven by a dogmatic ideology rather than reason and/or you simply want your own way.
The men of violence would have the arseole if their flip flops weren't the right colour As my learned friend Mr Exige pointed out earlier, should those same part time gunslingers, take a break from shooting female reporters, then if they are to attack any hard border and those that insisted it be placed there, then as my learned friend pointed out, they would now be starting shoot outs within the republic and going to brussels with their timers. I submit your honour The U.K. government has insisted the gfa is absolute and so will have no hard border on it's side, that is all they can guarranty. What the eu and it's member nations does on their side is not within our remit or control. It does rather shame the eu and the republic that they promote terrorists and criminal acts should be listened to, more than a democratic vote by a soon to be non eu country
Right. So the commentators who have raised this issue and the people I spoke to over there who are getting very worried are also “just making it up”? Lol. Just because you don’t agree with and/or understand something doesn’t mean it’s been made up. Doubtless you’ll trot out your standard line about these being left wing metropolitan elite supporting propaganda rags or some such nonsense but one of them is the staunchly “Leave” Daily Express. I did try to find more right wing sources but these days they tend to ignore any inconvenient news which might cast doubt on the wisdom of Brexit (eg: the Fail online going with “Meghan Wears a Headscarf” on the afternoon of the SC judgement in Miller 2), and unfortunately Der Stürmer is out of print these days. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....mb-dissident-no-deal-brexit-a9075286.html?amp https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....is-johnson-sammy-wilson-troubles-31st-oct/amp https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....my-and-reigniting-troubles-1.4009063?mode=amp Apparently it’s already starting to kick off in Scotland https://www.sundaypost.com/fp/we-ar...thern-ireland-after-a-no-deal-brexit-will-he/ In short, your claim that no deal won’t reignite the Troubles is in the same category as the £350m bus slogan and “there are no press here” Unless you are better informed than this guy, you’d probably better wind your neck in on this subject; “Dr John Kyle former interim leader of the Progressive Unionist Party (PUP), linked to loyalist paramilitary group the Ulster Volunteer Force, said loyalists fear the UK Cabinet are "risking Northern Ireland's economy, peace and secured place within the United Kingdom as acceptable collateral damage in order to achieve Brexit". He added: "Because what is clear over here in Northern Ireland is that Boris Johnson has little understanding and little interest in the resulting damage, he is absolutely focused on achieving a clean Brexit and any collateral damage is worth it. I don’t think they recognise the potential problems that could arise."
You really don’t understand that is not how it works over there. For example, the present Troubles started around the end of the 60s/early 70s with peaceful protest marches by catholics which became increasingly violent due to conflict with loyalist counter protesters and so after a number of Catholic houses were burned down, the UK sent the Army in to keep the two sides apart (ironically, more to protect the catholics from the loyalists than vice versa). That led to flashpoints between the people of catholic West Belfast and the Army which in turn led to PIRA stepping in, which escalated matters even further.
None of which has any bearing on the current trade issue. If the U.k. has said since day one the gfa will be respected and their will be no hard trade border on the U.K's side who is it that will put one up and where?
