Quite rightly those events would and should draw unhappyness at those events, as should the abductions of innocents to be tortured and killed and buried in places that their families will never know. I also understand the repugnance of those people towards those seeking to invoke the attrocities of the past over a trade deal and a wish to remain as a pr tool
Next episode on this thread; https://newsthump.com/2019/10/02/bo...ty-member-within-minutes-of-getting-snapchat/
I'm in that snapchat group and can confirm Boris text us all and said I want to send you a dick pic, We all got this
So did Adolf Eichmann, ironically. But he was only following orders and the democratic will* of the Volk when he did what he did. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Eichmann * Hitler was elected democratically (slightly more complex than that, but there was a vote), but then applied the same “no second referendum” reasoning to the constitution and decided that now the Volk had spoken, no further elections were necessary.
Oh treacherous ground: arguing that a plebiscite is invalid as the plebs don’t understand the nuances of the question! The question was Leave or Remain as either was thought to be possible. The “experts” were expected to take the answer and turn it into workable political and economic treaties and policies. If it’s not possible to Leave, what’s the purpose of the question?
its posible to leave. had comprimise been made. and a boarder between scotland and england would of been easier to manage. in fact. if england just left the union. sorted.
Quelle Surprise, A remainer bringing up hitler again just because we voted to leave the eu ....Yawn Next you will be saying the vote needs to be overturned as the people didn't know what they voted for and the people need to be protected from themselves
I didn’t say it was invalid. However, as has been repeated many times because Leavers just don’t get it, the Referendum was advisory, not binding and any promises made were moral/political so there’s not even any need to consider validity. (No doubt Noob will pop up with, “But, but...’deMoKraSey’, m’kay” and we will disappear down that rabbit hole for the millionth time. Experts? Hmmm. I think anyone with even a modicum of understanding of how deeply enmeshed the UK and EU are were saying back in 2016 that the chances of getting the sort of deal which the Leave campaign promised were vanishingly small and that the complexities generally were overwhelming. What I think you mean is “the same mendacious politicians who promised milk and honey were tasked with delivering it and they have failed” If it’s not possible to leave, or at best, it is ruinous to the economy and dangerous to the peace process, then those who ran the campaigns were guilty of a gross dereliction of their duty for failing to realise that or covering it up. In some ways, you can’t really blame the electorate as it wasn’t properly spelled out to them that this (no deal and all that comes with it) was the inevitable outcome of their decision. I worked it out back in 2016 and predicted this chaos, but I’ve studied EU law, whereas most people haven’t. One thing everyone knows however, is that governments generally and it seems UK govts in particular are incompetent. I think it was Bradders who made the very apposite observation along the lines that the U.K. is brought to its knees by leaves and gales every autumn and by a light dusting of snow every winter, so what chance was there they could disentangle the most complex legal, political and economic problem this country has faced since WW2. You didn’t need to be a lawyer or an economist to work that out and naively, insanely, the Leavers put their faith in these mediocrities. True that there would have been a hardcore of Brextremists of the JRM/Farage/Exige/Noob type who want us out at any cost whatsoever, but I imagine that a significant proportion of moderate Leavers feel betrayed that they were made promises and they put their trust in those who made those promises, only to find they’d been lied to.
and you're there every time it's discussed at the same rabbit hole but like most extreme remainers you adopt the "I don't do it, it's the leavers" And yet,during the election, leave campaigners said, what are you talking about , we are still the U.K. , the eu don't run every aspect of our life, we are free as a bird. Then they lost the vote...and suddenly their shout was, we can't leave, we are too far intertwined. Crazy flip flop kids. Not entirely true is it....again from you Many brexiteers wanted a clean break from day 1 as they knew the eu would fuck about, but understood there would need to be at least an attempt at compromise. Sure enough not only did they fuck about, they made it quite clear the deal would be worse and would still leave them controlling us and with no legal recourse to leave in a way article 50 had. It was then the thought that the eu also wanted a no deal so they could warn other countries, leave us and we won't deal with you. Now, that might work for two thirds of the eu countries that the eu have made dependent on the eu for money, but it's never going to work on one of the stronger countries who can afford to leave and make it work after doing so 28 days, forever ahmen
Yeah. Like I said - hardcore swivel eyed loons like you wanted to leave regardless of the harm done. You don’t even understand most of the issues now so what chance did you have getting on for 4 years ago? I think you (yet again) misunderstand something. An enmeshing of legal systems is not the same thing as one system running the other. A better, albeit imperfect, metaphor would be Siamese twins. You do have to love Leavers though for that kind of doublethink, as they simultaneously claim the EU is weak, yet also claim it is bullying little old Blighty
Is this the same mp from the party that also wants the soon to be won fishing waters, to go back to the eu , yes?
irrelevent. but they will going anyway. trade deals. give and take. guess what they are gonna give away to secure the 80% of your ecconomy?
