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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. You only need a boat if we were up a Creek without a paddle or the polar ice caps melt, frankly neither seem likely so let's just pretend the boat was never an option?


    Ohhhh look over there > :eyes:
     
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  2. I wonder why they allow him to shout :thinkingface: surely it's a breach of the peace or summit similar: I wonder why they still film where he can see them :thinkingface:
    All a bit odd that one...
     
  3. It's all terribly contrived.

    As is everything that Parliament has done with regard to honouring the 2016 Ref result.
     
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  4. It's not odd, they know full well what they're doing as it adds to the drama of division and discontent.

    The media are bastards, utter utter bastards.

    Even sky, the most prevalent and unrelenting brexit drum beating broadcaster has just launched a new news channel (5pm onwards) that's all news but brexit, a Brexit free zone as it's billed.

    Something of their own doing and capitalising on it, the utter bastards
     
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  5. Labour has suggested to resolve this, all oars for such boats, should be made of ice
     
  6. And it even has Brexit in the title :joy:
     
  7. The lack of a free media (press & TV) in the West is the very worst aspect of the times we live in, bar nothing.
     
  8. That's a bloke !!!
     
  9. I wondered if

    support = voted leave

    oppose = voted remain

    don’t know = didn’t vote in 2016, didn’t care then and still don’t, they’re all
     
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  10. After wondering, let us know what you decided and why?
     
  11. Interesting indeed if only for the fact that they're once again reporting statistics in a negative fashion.

    This section for instance as just one example of many within that piece


    These figures are a reminder many voters have not necessarily been following the drama of the past week closely.

    However, in each poll, rather more say they support Mr Johnson's deal than indicate they are opposed to it.

    But given the high proportion of don't knows, the proportion in favour does not come even close to 50%
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    Whilst what they're saying is true, shouldn't it also follow that up with "and nor does the proportion opposed come as close to 50%"

    Quite similarly throughout there are higher proportions of support than their are opposed, yet the negativity is aimed towards the support percentage not being higher.

    Quite interesting...
     
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  12. I have finished wondering and decided.











    Meaningless b@ll@x
     
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  13. I really didn't find it objectionable at all. Like you I interpreted the numbers for myself.

    I thought the comments such as you highlighted were a general response to the Downing St relentless message that the people are being denied, echoed by the Daily Fail & The Excess. If the stas are true (or even partially so) the people are neither in support or against in any great percentage.

    Its quite interesting how we see the same things and feel differently!
     
  14. The obvious observation is about democracy.
    Cons think they should have vote after vote.
    But the people should not have another referendum.
    Telling, what ever your view on leave stay
     
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  15. I try to see the angle they're taking more so than what I wish to see, I try to be objective as at the moment I'm so cynical with all the shit the media and politicians are spouting.

    None of what the report says is technically inaccurate, it's just that the reporting is in a style down playing 'support' for the deal, more so than down playing the 'opposition' to the deal.
    They're immediately using the larger 'don't know' proportions to somehow suggest that automatically goes against 'support' results, more so than the likelihood those 'don't knows' could actually materialise to further prop up the support results.

    I'm not surprised people don't know, it's been dragging out for well over 3 years and like me I'm sure most people are just sick of listening to politicians, I'm just a sucker for self harm and watch too much news :)
     
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  16. Ex exe ex X.:heart:
     
  17. You win the prize
     
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