Listening to this stuff from Labour, it'll be very interesting to see the result of the next GE, when it eventually comes. People are fed up and want out now, they won't forget this at the polling booth at the next GE in 1 month / 3 months / 1 year / 3 years time.
as mentioned in another post, I have been snowed in with a 3 day long power cut in Aberdeen in December. that’s not the norm but it does happen the point was as much that the SNP were voicing a concern for the people who are least likely to vote for them as well as it is a bit risky having an election in December it could just as easily be Cumbria
To be fair, it is a total shit show, Boris is peddling his 'excellent' deal which he then admits is virtually the same as May's deal which he resigned over If we had a GE soon it would be interesting to see how may would actually now vote for the Lib Dems instead of Labour or even the Tory's - would Boris actually get his majority, history suggests Tory arrogance has fekked up the last 2 times it was tried
Rains all the time in Cumbria, wettest part of the UK - clue's in the 'Lake District' name they'll be flooded out
I hope politicians don’t read this thread. If they do they’ll be asking for an extension from the EU until the weather is good enough in the U.K. for people to vote. That would be the same as revoking article 50.
So Labour want the people to vote on Boris' deal in a Yes/No referendum? I thought that was Parliament's job ? But they won't ? Labour is a fekkin comic shambles of a party.
Where parties in the Commons stand on election ■ Conservatives - Boris Johnson has requested an election twice already - but not all of his MPs are on board with the idea, arguing that the focus should be on delivering Brexit first ■ Labour - Has insisted it wants an election but won't vote for one until a no-deal Brexit has been firmly taken off the table. Some of its MPs from Leave voting areas may take a different view ■ SNP - The party's leader at Westminster, Ian Blackford, said "we want an election but these terms are not acceptable," adding that the poll should take place earlier than the middle of December ■ Lib Dems - Would prefer another referendum but have said they would vote for an election if there was a long enough extension. Leader Jo Swinson said she wanted to see what the EU said on Friday before deciding ■ DUP - Sammy Wilson, the party's Brexit spokesman, has indicated that the unionists could support an election in a bid to secure better terms with the EU ■ Independent Group for Change - Leader Anna Soubry said an election "wouldn't solve anything" and called again for another referendum ■ Plaid Cymru - The party's four MPs are likely to vote against an election, with the party arguing for another referendum instead ■ Green Party - The party's sole MP, Caroline Lucas, looks set to vote against an election, saying in a tweet the UK could still "crash out" with no-deal if MPs can't amend the Withdrawal Agreement Brexit: EU agrees to Brexit delay, but no date yet https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50175914
IMO, the main reason these MPs that want a second referendum calling it a Peoples' Vote (which has already been done) is they think it is the safest way they can keep their seats and salaries.
What I find most astonishing about that list is Anna Soubry is still clinging on to employment and yet still just as gobby as ever I mean genuinely, what are they doing? I don't think they even register on the ratings chart, presumably the figure is somewhere between 0 and 0.9% at best. Another reason to have a GE just to see who out of the 5 below retain the seat they're keeping warm
I still think if they ‘resign’ or leave their party that should be it, they should be looking for other employment.
Absolutely agree, you'll probably find their constituents feel the same and that's what makes it so Brazen they're clinging on.
https://apple.news/ACL3ohskWR_aTpon1egdJbg Looks like the Eu are saying ‘no, after you’ They will say how long an extension after they know if there’s going to be a GE. I am convinced it’s just some sort of game to all these politicians, a very lucrative one for them. It’s also starting to look like people that have said in the past that the Eu manipulate things until they get what they want may be proved right.
I get the reasoning but we're talking about politicians here that got elected on a party mandate, using the support strength of the party they stood with, and now they're still pulling in the wage having walked from that party. It is a bit different
it is, a bit. But if you talk party mandate, does that also mean tow the party line? The water starts to get a bit muddy, ignore the whip? Ignore their conscience. Which version of Brexit could they support etc etc. when the government changes direction due to internal politics. No easy answer is there. And if you go down that path you can question a government trying to carry out its mandate/policies as voted for...when they have lost a majority. Do they have the right then? There are issues with the system as well. Top names get parachuted in to constituencies where they have little or no connection, on the basis that it is a safe seat. People also are very tribal with their voting. No idea on figures but I think ‘most’ people are repeat voters for one political party. With the swing voters being persuaded maybe on what is important at the time for them.
