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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. what do you think allan?
     
  2. Not sure I have worked it out yet Finm.

    The media that I’ve heard so far seems to be trying to make Labour, particularly Corbyn look bad.
    When the Tories or Lib Dem’s are interviewed it’s generally about their policies. When it’s Labour they only want to talk about Corbyn and what he has or hasn’t supported in the past.

    I think I will wait and maybe even read their manifestos and go from there. I don’t really care about Brexit, it isn’t going to happen so let’s look at everything else.
     
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  3. Sensationalism = ratings.
     
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  4. Who are "they " fin?
     
  5. yip, its called playing the man. not the ball.
    what do you mean brexit isnt going to happen? do you mean as in cancelled or brexit light some are calling it?
     
  6. so how does that work fin?

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    striking resemblance of Myra Hindley............

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  7. ask the bbc. they doctered the footage.
     
  8. BBC didn't post it in here :D
     
  9. i know, odd init, there is a high propotion of the BBC news demograophic on here. missed a trick there so they did.
     
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  10. I don't think it will happen at all, as in cancelled, could be a 'Brexit light' - one that leads to the UK rejoining perhaps.
     
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  11. Quite a looker in her day, If I was a school boy.... (too soon?).
     
  12. Yup, still too soon :eek:
     
  13. Pound seems to gain each time a deal was on the cards rather than a hard Brexit.
    Reuters, just like others, try to directly link the exchange rate of the euro and pound to the days Brexit events. Often though there are also other reasons, price of oil, performance of a large corporation etc. So maybe linked, maybe not.

    Labour could be good for jobs, investment in infrastructure, maybe at the cost of huge renumeration for top bosses and lesser returns for shareholders. This could affect outlook for profits on stocks and shares. But it could also mean money going to right place for the first time in many years. Replacement of leaking utility pipes and less ‘profit’ payouts.

    Who will that be bad for? Maybe just those skimming off the top.
     
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  14. They're certainly a fickle bunch aren't they.....bastards
     
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  15. Maybe :thinkingface:

    And yet it would seem anyone of a remain leaning is ok to quickly use the currency fluctuations to blame on brexit, so it really is hard to keep up whether we're allowed to use them or not :neutral:

    As for Corbyn whether his supporters like it or not, he's polarising and unluckily for them and him, not very popular.

    Now I accept being popular isn't what it should be about, but it helps.

    The other thing Corbyn isn't is clear or decisive, floating around Brexit no man's land isn't helpful to business, they want a decision whichever way that is, another 6 months of some kind of negotiations swiftly followed by an unknown set of questions for yet another referendum isn't what business in general wants, we just need a line drawn and get on with it.
     
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  16. Agree with most of that.

    Corbyn has polarised people as much as Brexit.
    This election though needs be about more than a blonde buffoon or a crusty backroom debater.

    I am concerned though at the number of people who now just want Brexit asap, without real consideration.
    They just want it over.
    Thing is, Brexit is only the beginning. Vote it through in whatever form and we will be negotiating terms of Brexit for the next ten years. There is no quick fix, ‘make it go away’ scenario. So actually it makes a lot of sense to persevere longer to get the right outcome. Whatever that may be.
     
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  17. There is a ‘make it go away’ option - Remain.
     
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  18. As Mr Brexit Farage has generously illustrated that hardly seems to be true. The Brexit narrative changes and reverses all the time.

    Starts UKIP
    Attempts to get elected (seven times)
    Leaves UKIP
    Starts BP
    Announces 600+ candidates to win election with him as potential PM
    Says second referendum is probably the best way to resolve Brexit

    Offers Tories a chance of an alliance
    Decides not to run
    Cancels half his candidates for office (probably more to come)
    Now giving Johnson half a chance
    States that this is the best way to avoid second referendum
     
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  19. Just on this bit and being quite impartial. Labour have made much of going after the richest 1% but often quite vague on how much that would actually give them towards their predicted spend. I'm sure some will have heard they have spent the same money 12 times over.

    There is according to the 2019 times rich list, just 151 billionaires in the U.K. The problem with those figures is that those type of people have homes all around the world and many use them. Dyson now lives in singapore, jim ratcliff of ineos has moved to monte carlo, Romam abramovich (yes a lot of non uk residents are listed within the U.K.'s top rich list), hasn't had a U.K. visa for at least a year, Barclay brothers residence is in Monaco and on and on the list goes

    I'm not sure, purely on figures, there are enough 1% billionaires who only live in the U.K. to fund what has been promised
     
  20. I imagine you can impartialy wait for the Labour manifesto to see what they are actually saying as opposed to cherry picking one sound bite out of the air?
     
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