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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. I'm sure between them all they could quite easily do this, if they had the combined will.

    I fear however that Labour likely know they benefit from votes that 'could' be ineligible, but that's just theoretical.
     
  2. I thought Labour were just trying to encourage younger people to vote on the grounds that they were more likely to vote for Labour and it’s a low turn of younger voters.
     
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  3. I think ‘none of the above’ would encourage more people to vote o_O
     
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  4. Well again you might be right - perhaps it is easy. I hope we see a change in the next years.

    I'm going take an open view on "Labour maybe benefit from votes that 'could' be ineligible" as opposed to "Torys want to reduce Labours vote by any means possible" since theres no basis to believe either theory.
     
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  5. Young people are one target group yes, but when we're talking iD cards we're then down to immigrant and largely ethnic groups. In fact wasn't there somewhere recently that was only just won for labour and the fella in the picture was previously charged will electoral fraud?

    All I'm saying is that the main reasons given against id cards tend to be from the left labour supporters, when in reality it makes perfect sense if everyone agreed process.

    Ultimately if there's no ineligible voters to worry about why worry about id cards is all I'm saying
     
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  6. Do you currently not just need an address and an NI number ?
     
  7. It's a classic 6 of one, half dozen of the other.

    Ultimately voter ID can surely only be a good thing. Anyone with the right to vote in this country shouldn't have anything to worry about, it's just whether these highly educated leaders of ours can actually see something so simple through.......I fear not
     
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  8. That was probably the Peterborough by-election where the Brexit Party made several complaints about voting malpractice, but after Police investigation they dropped the cases.
     
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  9. From what I gather yes.
     
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  10. That's the one.

    It was after that Labour still fought off the idea of id cards, admittedly feelings were running high at the time but I sincerely don't understand why we don't make it mandatory
     

  11. I think Damodici doth fear too much.
     
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  12. There are still mutterings and political mud slinging such as:

    https://www.politicalite.com/electi...exploitation-how-peterborough-was-really-won/

    I hope this means the authorities shall be keeping a close eye on proceedings, especially in marginals in December.
     
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  13. It's jezza, he's scares the bejeezus out of me :)
     
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  14. I think ID cards would be great and help in many ways, especially for the Police, voting, entitlement to NHS/Welfare, oh, does this make me afar right extremist?
     
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  15. It seems Labour all use the same calculator

     
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  16. Seems to me to be an obvious thing re services. I do not think the police should be able to demand identification from everyone at will.
     
  17. What's the harm? I've lived in a Country with mandatory ID cards and could not see any disadvantages, only the upsides to law abiding citizens.
     
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    "I have a very high ID and i dont need a card to prove it"
     
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  19. If they want to know my name, and I'm not in charge of a vehicle on HM highway, they need to charge me first.
     
  20. I don't think they are allowed without grounds. I suspect the worry is that if we all have id cards, it will be one of the first things the police ask for. https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-to-stop-and-search-your-rights I'm sure zed will correct if wrong

    The funny thing is, since the internet, we are more likely to carry with us id than we ever did in the cash society. I.D. to pick up parcels, finance, hire stuff like cars or tools, some even have their bank details for autopay on their phone.

    I don't personally see carrying around another card in my wallet as a bad thing, I carry my driving licence in the same wallet all the time
     
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