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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. There's a lot of this about

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    Incidently Hammonds figure is now well over £78billion
     
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  2. I don't and when id cards are a requirement I won't be voting. ,:mad:
     
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  3. I read that the benifit in actual cash to those receving this would be £1.64 a week.
     
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  4. revisiting the full fact story, most who look would probably recognise the full fact website https://fullfact.org/

    As with any search, normally you type in who are......insert the site, then look at who they are and lastly look at their accounts.

    You can understand why some have hesitancy when one of the better known ones are funded by google, george soro's open society foundation, and the usual candidates as the rowntree charitable trust, Cadbury trust

    https://fullfact.org/about/funding/
     
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  6. Just curious but why?
     
  7. because its pandering to right wing zoomers and their fear of the other.
     
  8. I can guess most people's answers to this.

    Some don't want the loss of freedom and anonymity that the existence of official IDs represent. Others will say it is an infringement of the person's right to cast their vote unencumbered by limitation and regulation.

    Perhaps people conflate voting IDs with National IDs. If you only need an official ID to vote, and for no other reason, I would argue that any notional loss of freedom is more than compensated for by the reduction/elimination of voter fraud, which itself deprives you of your rights.

    You need ID to drive a car, borrow a book from a library, collect your mail from a Post Office, any number of mundane tasks. Why wouldn't you need ID in order to cast a vote, the result of which can have a bearing on how your country is run?
     
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  9. Exactly, if only I could think of an analogy for Alan :thinkingface:
     
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  10. How about Postal vote, done it for years.
     
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  11. :eyes:
     
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  12. Don't worry.

    He'd only forget to feed it or something.
     
  13. Loch Ness is quite easy to find :thinkingface:
     
  14. ?
     
  15. No ones found it in 50 years :D
     
  16. There are some other points to consider.

    There would be a huge financial cost to providing photo ID to everyone on the country. To use currently official government issued ID's such as passports (76%) and Drivers Licence (74%) would leave out a quarter of voters.

    Voter fraud according to the government is negligable. In 2018, there were local and Euro elections and no evidence of large-scale electoral fraud. Of the 266 cases that were investigated by the police, one led to a conviction, and two suspects accepted police cautions. In 2017, there was one conviction and eight suspects accepted police cautions.

    https://www.electoralcommission.org...nd-research/our-research/electoral-fraud-data

    Is this just another case of crowd paranoia stirred up by the usual suspects?
     
    #45138 Jez900ie, Nov 21, 2019
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  17. as said, we all carry some form of ID. why somthing specific for voting?
    the analysis has been done. right or wrong younger, low payed, people in private rented accomodation, dont want it and are less likely to register.
     
  18. And not having one is pandering to the tin foil hatters who care more about "me" than "we", then complain we have no "society" like the "good old days", whilst knowing their use of any internet device takes more information from you, than you carrying an id card.
     
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