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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. That was clearly written for or by your usual Summerset contributor :joy:
     
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  2. was it?. the usual summerset contributor is a liberal. pro indi. but a liberal.
    try again.
     
  3. All she had to do was guarantee a 2nd referendum vote between remain / revoke & Johnsons deal,that's it.

    Taking the unnecessary hard line of immediately revoke was stupid.
     
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  4. Wee Ginger Dug
     
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  5. He must be Anti Jo Swidleson though :yum
     
  6. At least we know where Corbyn stands on Brexit now.
     
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  7. yip, no doubt exe. I guess he would like a competent party with liberal values (as would I) to stand a chance of running something. after last night that probably feels unlikely now.
     
  8. For those who want to an insight into the demise British motorcycle manufacturing have a read of "Whatever Happened to the British Motorcycle Industry" by ex-BSA designer Bert Hopwood.
     
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  9. Plenty of clever engineers working in there (just as was the case in the British motor industry) but a lack of vision, arrogance and greed from management killed it all.

    Frank Melling's books are worth a read too - his visits to BSA just before its demise are very telling.
    http://www.frankmelling.co.uk/about-frank-melling/
     
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  10. before I read it I am gonna make a prediction on what it says.
    a failure to modernise in part because of the lack of need due to empire. and the collapse of the internal market at the end of empire
     
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  11. I doubt you know any.
     
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  12. More or less fin. An almost total lack of investment, the home sales dwindling with the affordability of the small car and an overwhelming belief that "British is best", failing to acknowledge the threat from Japan.
     
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  13. yip. figured. same across the board.
     
  14. The management were useless fat twats who back slapped themselves to bankruptcy.
     
  15. or in tory speak, "Unions".
     
  16. When he walked in it was clear the majority of the audience, not all, were pro Corbyn. Long and short, he suggested his way was a new way. one of this first questioners was a big beardy weardy young fella who said he didn't trust him or his policies. most of the dislike was about his figures not adding up.

    On Scotland he said no deal for power share but by the end of the questioning on an indi vote he conceeded not at least for the first 2 years, so 2021 but kept going on about Scotland will get £110 billion over two terms of a labour government. The "lots of scots" it wasn't as dug described. They must have coach loaded down and sat in the same block because as she asked the audience about indi, she was getting the same answer and realised they were all in a group and all were pro indy
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    Nic was the most at ease and confident but then it was a game played at home.yes she did get asked about the deficit and in true snp tradition every thing good in scotland was the snp and every thing bad was tories at westminster. She did have a dry smile when asked about a confidence arrangement with labour, in that when corbyns statement of no indi and no deal, she looked as if to say, I know something he isn't telling
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    Swinson came on like the girly swot title she seems to be proud of and keeps saying and it backfired dreadfully. Almost every vote whilst in coalition was questioned, her claim to be the new pm and how unliberal and undemocratic the lib dems are. By the end of her slot, she genuinely looked as though she was about to scream "I'm a celebrity get me out of here" Chuka Uma must be preparing his, I want to be the new leader speech already
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    With Boris, to get an answer, you have to let him waffle and eventually words will come out you can question him on. bruce in what is becoming a interviewers norm, was jumping in before he had even half finished his reply, but rarely helps himsef with these type of of replies. The london mayor mentions was in reply to some questions on what he had done whilst in government and he pointed out that at the time of the question he wasn't in government but was london mayor and outlined his positives in that role but as so often with Boris, if you are getting quick fire questions, the waffle looked like he was not replying to most of the questions but he did point out he's only been able to influence the way forward as prime minister for 4 months and concentrated on brexit. He was at ease with the quotes that he had given in the past and apologised if they were offensive
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    That last paragraph is obvious to anyone that it's been written by a scot nat as sturgeon did not have it easy at all and she certianly won nothing other than the most confident

    All 4 candidates offered nothing new in style, offers of policies of any substance so in all of the cases it would have been more of the same and usual
     
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  17. would it then be fair to say, that that was written by a tory, and brit (English) nat?
     
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  18. If it had been fin, would I have praised nic for anything at all?
     
  19. the lib dems said it was an audience made up of a percentage share of Westminster numbers.
     
  20. I am led to believe you can only cry wolf so many times. social media tells me you wouldn't of got away with it this time. it was seen across the uk, and the FM was in the same room this time.
     
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