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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. The NHS seems to have grown a side topic from my original point that is the Tories are increasing national debt by as a resilt of borrowing to fund tax cuts.

    I'm just popping out for a tin 'at.

    TB
     
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  2. Why does this bloke keep popping up?

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  3. My experience of the NHS is that it needs a review. Both my brother and I are very grateful for the care we were given, however it has grown out of control.
    A £7000 install cost them £35,000 as it went through quiet a few vendors.... temporary AC / Heat packs on weekly loan arrangements at a cost that would see the failed legacy capital equipment replaced every 6-12 weeks.... these packs have been there so long you can't get them out without chopping down 50' high trees (more than 15 years). No CAPEX money, but money for emergency break down stuff... total madness.
     
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  4. Does anybody actually listen to him?
     
  5. 'Cause our marines aren't daft enough to get caught doing a public service.
     
  6. Labour supporters?
     
  7. I even doubt that :bucktooth:
     
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  8. he's morphing into Stan Laurel
     
  9. nay lad, him speak with fork tongue.........
     
  10. Its a game of budgets.

    Thats the madness.

    TB
     
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  11. Potholes
     
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  12. I genuinely am still gobsmacked at the current crop of political parties and their seemingly naive strategy.

    Labour, i mean cmon, surely they've known for months if not years that Corbyn is massively polarising, jesus you'd have to have been living under a rock to not know that OR be in such denial you have some weird and almost religious belief in the man.

    All that said, if they didn't want to change leaders, if they'd listed a manifesto much more realistic, more softly softly in its approach as opposed to 'heres every policy we've been thinking of for the last 10 years and we're going to propose them all, right now, whatever the cost, big state and free stuff for all' then i would have expected them to do much better. But they didn't, they've gone so extreme in the first bite at the cherry it really isn't credible, especially considering the financial implications of such high spending whilst saying that its only the top earners that will pay a little more. Nobody outside of the Labour camp believe that and for very good reason.

    With a different leader and even just half of their current pledges (I'm sure they dig up some more multi billion ones before the weeks out), then they really could have sidelined the brexit debate and been leading by now. Shit, had he/they been clearer on their Brexit position months ago then maybe they'd have sold the old 'sit on the fence' position by now, but again that isn't washing

    Then we've got the Lib Dems, again they really really screwed up judging the mood of the nation whether you are a hardline remainer or not. Their tactic of revoke without a 2nd referendum is just mind bogglingly extreme for no good reason. For months and months they've been proudly shouting they want another referendum, and yet all of a sudden they felt the extreme switch to entirely ignoring the vote of 17.4m people was the right move??? I mean FFS, who is strategising this shit for them? Genuinely if thats the best they have what fucking level of people are they employing?

    And then the Tories... not only does Boris seem unable to utter a string of sentences together without cramming in 'dither, delay, get brevet done' then they launch a manifesto so dreary and easy to pick holes in it once again looks like it was written one night, signed off the next morning and nobody even took notice within the team. You could have drawn a winged cock on page 3 and nobody would have noticed, they just speed read it and didn't check the detail or try to pull holes in it which is what i do when putting together a small presentation at work, not something I'm putting to the whole of the UK

    Look i get it, Boris is seen as the man to follow through on Brexit and thats kind of good due to the 3.5 years of zero decisions we've all had to endure so far. But FFS, they could have stuck with that plan and at least come up with more in the manifesto than fucking potholes and fudged numbers on Nurses. I mean cmon, how did they not realise that any journo, or even a 10 year old with a calculator wouldn't have picked holes in that? It would have been easy to say X-Amount of new nurses & X-Amount of retention, thats just numbers and understandable.

    I would have thought (hoped) they had a list of manifesto ideas, a big long list, and they should have seen the reaction to Corbyns over the top version and shot somewhere in the middle, instead they played it so safe its made them look disinterested in the whole thing.

    None of them really deserve a vote, none.

    And yet here we are, having to pick someone strategically in the hope that somewhere in the next 5 years we can change to a better option, if only one would come up.

    Essentially its:

    Tories if you want Brexit at all and not much other change judging by their manifesto, other than Potholes....yay

    Labour if you want free stuff, lots of unmentioned additional costs/stealth taxes to cover said 'free stuff' (yes they'll need it) oh and remain or leave with a pointless position whereby we'd be better off revoking.

    Lib Dems if you want to declare your love of the EU so strongly you're prepared to stick two fingers up to everyone who voted first time round.....oh and yellow, you must like yellow


    Bellends the lot of em
     
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  13. This does make you think?
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  14. He probably thought he could buy her vote. He wants to buy everyones vote, just with their own money, which is what he hasn't told them yet.
     
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  15. None of the parties are trying to win over the thinking man or woman, just the majority.... Sadly your vote is worth exactly the same as your air head hairdresser or chav skag head....it all went wrong in 1832...
     
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  16. 15 Year olds elected the PM.
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    if Corbyn is divisive its because torys have created with their economic and social policies a divided country. who is that keeps repeating the old saying, you get the leaders you deserve? as if it's something new?
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    if only there was an opposition with a leader acceptable to Dom with policies Dom could vote for. another Blair? (not having a dig. chill)
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    much of what the opposition is proposing is available already north of the wall. and delivered on a balanced budget. (legal requirement) where the wealthier pay more (pennies) and nobody is leaving. Queue GERS figures, Queue another fool.
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    80k man bitching because he might have to pay a few pounds more a month and defended to the hilt. god, yer an odd bunch. what is going on in yer heads?
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    three Westminster parties. all pish. where the only choice is pish.
    hmm. no thanks.
     
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  17. Is this available in Welsh?
     
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  18. have you taken yer meds yet?
     
  19. Coffee?
     
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