WTH? Has this discussion become about Scotchland Parish Council again? HTH did that happen? :Hilarious:
we both know who normally kicks it of loz. another attempt to shut it down? no chance. our turn at the court of appeal today. suck it up tory boy. :Hilarious::Finger:
UK based businesses must be consulted in any negotiations. Its all well and good saying you have taken back control of your borders and laws but if the country loses hundreds and thousands of jobs as a result then it will be a price not worth paying.
Sort of like when you want to negotiate the terms of, say, leaving the EU and you don't want your negotiating position advertised to the opposite side beforehand. I would say that Royal Prerogative would be handy in that situation. and absolutely nothing to do with an attempt not to expose lie that is the Scotland act?
Funny, I don't remember them consulting the electorate when many of them took part in project fear. Nissan and Land Rover show the government is listening but again I must point out, as much as people want to jump all over the U.K. government, we still have an opposite side to deal with who will also have a wish list from European business. The problem arises however is that we have become too reliant on what business wants and this had led to globilisation where companies do well in a way that workers do and have not and have not seen real term wages move at all for most working people. Listen to business sure, but never forget the people decide government and not big business, as much as they try.
As quoted in the article - "HSBC, JPMorgan and Credit Agricole illegally exchanged sensitive Euribor information to make a profit on those products" Weren't the 1st two of these, major supporters of staying "IN"? Surprise, surprise. Banks fined £413m over euro rate rigging - BBC News
Business runs the world, unfortunately. Whilst governments are in such massive debt they are totally reliant on business to stop it all going tits up.
No, just an act. Shortbread, haggis and bagpipes were all invented in England. Terrible inventions, admittedly - you can't get it right every time- so we quietly abandoned them and let the Scottish think they had thought of them first.
When you start a war, or a football match, or a treaty negotiation, what you want to achieve is not normally a secret; everybody knows what your aims are. The secrets are what your tactics will be, what concessions you might be prepared to offer, and what you might do in the event of failure. In the case of Brexit, the current government is unable to say what its aims are - what would count as success. That is what exposes the nakedness of its stance.
i agree. along with pretty much every thing you have said on this thread. but i also think there has been the added dimension of exposing mundels, cammerons and the British governments part in the bill i mentioned earlier. only 8months after it passing through parliament. the word "normally" in the bill was exposed at the time much to usual claims of grievance by the government, the opposition and press. and funnily enough the usual suspect are v.quiet on the subject up here at the mo. just give us a reasonable take on the truth folks we/i can handle it.
The best possible deal; greatest access to markets, with the minimum cost, whilst taking back control of our borders and immigration policy. It isn't rocket science, it is just that the remoaners are trying to derail the process. If we say we are going to negotiate the best possible deal and then put it to parliament, or the electorate, for final approval, what kind of deal do you think we will be offered ?
Who said "the best laid plan never survives first contact with the enemy" ? Which of course is not an excuse for having no plan. but there is no point in having too detailed a plan unless you have overwhelming superiority and can dictate the terms, which we don't, but neither do they. I still think this is more about undermining the government and derailing the process.
Most sensible people aren't concerned @Noods Unfortunately the Remainians, Liberal media, leftists and bed wetters are by far the most vocal.
The government, or should we say about a dozen of the government, must have an idea of what they want and where they want to end up. If they went in with a non-negotiable stance about immigration then they have a duty to inform the public at large. I would have thought that with the next election due very soon after Brexit is expected to happen, they might feel its a good idea to inform that same electorate what their plan is. Otherwise they might find themselves getting kicked out at the election if many lose their jobs as a result.
Are we concerned ? Judging by European TV they are even more brainwashed with "bread and circuses" than we are.
