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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. scurring rats..........come to mind.
     
  2. He can't even write it properly.:(
     
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  3. I'm not sure what the right price is for rail travel though it does seem too high. But Labour cutting rail fares by 1/3rd (not costed in their manifesto again....) with the cost being borne by the road tax you and I pay for our cars/motorcycles? Not sure that's the right plan.

    Labour will also reduce monies for new/improved roads and you can bet the potholes won't be fixed with the money flowing elsewhere. I feel alarmed at the prospect of Labour getting their hands anywhere near the running of this country. I hope the reduced Tory lead over Labour in the polls is not an ongoing trend. Even Lib Dems and no Brexit would be better for us but they've blown it and Swinson may even lose her seat!
     
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  4. yeah poor old Noobie he did'nt mean it anyway, he has joined the opposition now , he's going to get free grammar lessons.
     
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  5. LOL. I meant JC.....but of course you knew that didn't you;). You're just stirring things up aren't you PB:)
     
  6. swinson isn't going to lose her seat. 2015 was the high tide mark. people where still pumped from 2014. low turn outs are the norm here, and I can understand why people say, why bother?.
    we are being primed. anything less than a landslide will be sold as a failure for the SNP.
    5years ago we had 6 seats.
     
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  7. well it wasn't JC, he doesn't swear, so who's stirring what ? :astonished:
     
  8. The best result would be for the Cons to just get a majority whereby they need a handful of Brexit Party votes to move forward with Brexit :thinkingface: too stronger win would soften a proper non fluffy shameful defeatists Brexit :):upyeah:
     
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  9. I think the best result for the UK would be labour, with a confidence and supply arrangement with the SNP to keep em honest and on budget.
     
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  10. maybe we could look at what it costs our European neighbours for train travel?
     
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  11. That last one was a bit indiscriminate :joy:
     
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  12. always expect the unexpected.
     
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  13. Bloodie tricksters, labour said they would stop late trains, they didn't say it was by striking for a month so there was none !
     
  14. What:astonished: you telling me JC didn’t write that himself;)
     
  15. The 2015 ge had 56 snp mps and was said at the time was peak snp as you say, the follow on from the indi vote.
    The 2017 ge you lost a third of snp mp's down to 35 mps but still the largest party in Scotland
    The 2019 will be a decider I feel but not a breaker. I suspect you won't get anywhere near the 2015 highpoint

    It will probably, as we discussed the other day, of all the parties for Scotland, Scots prefer a mostly Scottish group for their devolved government but prefer having the oversight of the U.K. government to stop the snp going silly
     
  16. You are confusing work with employment.
     
  17. 70.5% of those who responded to the Ducati forum want to get Brexit done. ... I've a very warm feeling about the 12th...:heart::heart::heart::blush:
     
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  18. I have had a warm feeling before. Urgh! Always careful now just in case it is more than wind.
     
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  19. i don't remember discussing anything with you the other day about MP numbers. I do mind you attempting to butt in on a convo. twice. we both dingied yah.
    some sneering remark about gaining one seat and future demands.
    if we are gonna attempt some analysis, lets establish some facts about 2017 first. the UK lost 21 SNP MP's, (UK Election) about 500,000 votes. only 40,000 went to other partys mostly labour. 460,000 didn't bother to vote. but the SNP still held 60% of the seats. most commentators correctly identified Indi not being front and center of the campaign.
    in Scotland, tory voter numbers went back to the same levels as maggy's worst in scotland. and May lost her majority.
    putting their trust in the big boy Gov.
    the torys, (in all their various guises and name changes over the decades) also used to run on a home rule ticket up here. we got bored waiting. they haven't won an election in Scotland since 1955.
    then labour took over due to campaigning on a strong Scottish ticket. promises of home rule and devolved Gov kept them going until they rigged the 1979 devolution reff by insisting on a last minuet super majority. the reff was won but lost on a technacality. part of that technicality was counting dead people and non voters as No's.
    labour lost the support of the SNP, I think they had 11mp's at the time, and labour lost the vote of no confidence.
    18years of torys. but next to none up here.
    labour get back in, reason in part to the promises of devo and home rule, yip, that old chestnut. the vote is won. the torys continue their down hill slide. who would of thaught it possible they could get any lower.
    labour jump in to bed with the torys during 2011-14, reinforcing one of the central planks of previous SNP campaigning.
    labour, gone.
    there is no desire to leave it to the big boys. devo max would win tomorrow on 80% Yes.
    I am no longer confident of big gains, I think we all got a bit Gallus and carried away early polling. forgetting about tactical voting and dirty tricks. I am thinking around 40 seats now. at best. its gonna rely on getting people out. if they get the 460,000 out that have given up on politics in genneral, low turn outs are the norm, they will get the big win.
    if I where you, I would consider being a lil less Gallus. the polls are narrowing.
     
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