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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Is that without capitalism supporting it?
     
  2. Remember:

    Without Capitalism, there would be no wealth for Socialism to plunder and ultimately destroy!

    Capitalism leads inevitably to destruction! Comrades!
     
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  3. I wouldn't worry too much about Rayner, much of her posturing is keep herself visible to be Labours next leaver. Have you noticed the senior women labour candidates are generally quiet at the moment
     
  4. as is mogg. why are they hiding him.
     
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  5. Apparently a few Brexit Party candidates are to stand down today and urge there supporters to vote Conservative, Anunziata Rees- Mogg being one of them.
     
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  6. Because he will replace Boris, but don't tell anyone shhhhh :p
     
  7. aye, thats a good reason for hiding him.
     
  8. I am not aware of capitalism and socialism being mutually exclusive, are you?
     
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  9. You strike me as the kind of guy that would know ;)
     
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  10. Hmmm, we lead a sheltered life in our comfy homes behind a keyboard.
    There’s some shitty dangerous places out there. Steven Segal and Chuck Norris are pretendy... If you stepped into the backwaters of Venezuela right now, you’ll be slotted. 100%
     
  11. For those that think socialism and capitalism can’t work together for the benefit of the majority, take a look at the GDP per head data for European countries

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

    we are 15th, just ahead of Spain

    Norway
    Sweden
    Iceland
    Denmark
    Ireland(who pay an old age pension much higher than ours)
    Germany
    France

    all have governments who are more socialist than ours.

    If you look into it you will find our power, water and transport companies are often owned by foreign governments
     
  12. I never said or intimated that. My argument was you can’t have socialism without capitalism.
     
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  13. speaking from expeiriance, our area during the 60/70s had hundreds of small to medium sized bussnesses providing services for the nationalised industries. obviously the unions became to powerfull, but that wasnt the only reason industries failed, complaicency and arragance that came from empire and the failure to adapt when the internal market collapsed at the end of empire played a big part too.
     
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    Nah, i leave that to you globe trotters chasing the buck.
     
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  15. Correct.

    Socialism is parasitic in nature and ultimately, saprophytic. It cannot live without a healthy body to feed upon (a capitalist economy) and as we have seen countless times throughout history, it eventually consumes the corpse it created.

    But yay, for the many, not the few, amirite?
     
  16. yep, the fat cats gathered in all their gains which the worker had made for them and said i'm not sharing any of this with you.
     
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  17. Nice if the few were honourable peeps, but nay i'll stick with the many.
     
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  18. aye port, thats how it works. i dont know who or what the big unions where saying when it came to laying blame or proposing solutions. but i guess human nature being what it is i cant imagine they are any more immune to attracting power hungry individuals.
     
  19. When I were te kid, our first tv was a black and white from radio rentals with a coin meter on the side, I now have a flatscreen 4k something or other, I feel left behind and worse off, dem darn fat cats
     
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  20. Yep, but they didn't or don't nett £700,000 for lying as a living.
     
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