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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Boris will have to make everyone happy post Brexit, reunite the country with NI & Scotland issues resolved, and salve all the angst of the last ten years of cuts. Its a tall order in five years. I genuinely hope he does it - I will be benifitting from such results. But whether he (or anyone) will be able to do so and repeat his election sucess is by no means certain.
     
  2. All they've to do is look back into the archives and find a T.Blair / nick the Tory manifesto and hey pesto number tens theirs.;)
     
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  3. deary dear. its not the SNP that keep stirring up the people. its the UK gov that drives the people to listen to the SNP and other independence supporting party's.
    Until you accept that, your analysis will continue to be arse over elbow.
    anyways, what your saying is, because there is work to do, it wont be done.
    Wrong.
     
  4. For anyone who wants to read the full article.
    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/12/resolution/
     
  5. You keep going on about joining the EU as if it were an immediate event. It’s a process that will take years just as leaving is taking years. It would be EEA/EFTA and then maybe Scotland joining the EU

    Labour lost because they took your average Working person for granted and spent too much time on people who were metaphorically or literally shoeless.

    a quick comment on the BBC

    every part of their Scottish results analysis said ,”snp +13, labour now at 1”. They completely ingored the collapse in the number of Tory seats. Are they trying to appease Tory HQ in a hope they don’t get sold off?

    they also inaccurately described John Finucane. According to the BBC his Father, Pat, was a prominent solicitor who was murdered by loyalists. The full facts are he was a prominent solicitor who was murdered by loyalists with help from the British government

    Former United Nations war crimes prosecutor Sir Desmond de Silva was asked by the government to carry out a review of all the existing documentation on the Finucane murder.

    His report in 2012 confirmed that agents of the state were involved in the 1989 killing and that it should have been prevented.

    still no public enquiry, but we do know MI5 removed a judges files on the case.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ed-investigation-files-into-alleged-collusion

    the DUP were involved in this too. The arms smuggler was Noel Little, father of DUP MP Emma Little-Pengelly, but it is OK to have them supporting a conservative government.

    on the other hand, anytime there is a possibility of the SNP supporting a Labour Government the Tories run adds that play on “English fears”. you would think that the SNP did not have a good track record in government. If Corbyn won, rUK would be grateful for the SNP reigning in his crazier ideas and keeping the policy based upon evidence rather than socialist dogma.

    but no: having been told to stay and to lead the U.K., Scotland is marginalised and the SNP demonised by a Tory party which has no interest in the average person.

    And English people wonder why more and more Scots have had enough of Westminster

    so there you go Tory boys

    you think it’s ok for the British government to be supported by terrorist organisations but it’s not ok for peaceful independence campaigners to support, not be part of, support a minority labour government
     
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  6. Awesome band..... sounds Cool.
     
  7. Sovereignty lies with the people not parliament


    In an important 1954 legal finding in the Scottish Court of Session Lord Cooper wrote -

    'The unlimited sovereignty of Parliament is a distinctively English principle which has no counterpart in Scottish constitutional law.'

    - McCormick v Lord Advocate 1954 (1953 SC 396).
     
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  8. thats another reason I cut and paste. for you guys I tend to edit out as much of the Scottish content as possible to save on the agro for the reasons 749 just stated.
    its something I first noticed in the 2010 tory election campaign. we are a center left country. they don't want center left policies gaining momentum. and in true tory style they don't use debate. they use fear.
     
  9. I don't see the uk government trying to force the Scots to take a indi referendum every 5 years

    No, what I'm saying is, whilst the snp see the distraction of blaming the government of the U.K. stopping them, when in fact the honest truth is More Scots are saying no, than any U.K. government
     
  10. Understood and a reasonable thing to do.
    I was taught at University to quote a source....
    It can be helpful to the reader.
     
  11. I know, your seeing a tory party, and an acceptable to the elite labour party's of the past doing everything they can to stop a Reff every five years.
    that's you getting it arse over elbow again.
    when the Scottish parliament was reconvened there was concern amongst the opponents of devolution that it would become the opposition to Tory/Blairite govs. rather than just a uk gov mitigation department. it became the opposition. all govs need an opposition, it just so happens the SNP are adept at opposite and leadership.
    and are more honest thing for you to say noob is that independence is now sitting at 51/49 for indi.
     
  12. I'mm move this over to the correct indi 2 thread :D
     
  13. No, inde will become realty because of your decisions. I am staying put.
     
  14. I thought you wanted to leave? :D
     
  15. we can play this silly game for as long as like.
    victims with a voice are very good at not being a victim.
    opposition noob, no victims here.
    use google for the polling, you might see something that isn't printed in the express.
     
  16. it wasn't always the case.
     
  17. Still blowing it out of yer Air con ass then pig lips?
     
  18. What have I done now?... that wasn't even my post! :astonished::eek: :eyes:
    Or are you still drunk from last night?
     
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  19. Coming from a man who said labour would win, I'm sure you can understand why I wouldn't pick you for my quiz team :D
     
  20. let that be a lesson for you. it's getting harder by the day to tell the difference.
     
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