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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. Exactly. Now hopefully this "Soft Brexit" nonsense can be put to bed. Although I don't see Clegg & co shutting up anytime soon.
     
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  2. I expect the funboy three of Clegg, Farron and Sturgeon will be huffing and puffing on some networks this afternoon but she has largely taken away their steam buy agreeing the final deal will go before parliament.

    Right before an election, most will be looking to protect their jobs than the country so the vote should not be a problem I feel.
     
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  3. It'll be the customs agreement next!

    Meanwhile at the homes/workplaces of the remoaners![​IMG]
     
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  4. Brexit: UK to leave single market, says Theresa May - BBC News

    Good. However giving Parliament a vote on the terms does not seem like a sensible idea, it will reduce any incentive for the EU to agree a good deal, the majority of MPs are remainers and whilst they have all said they will respect the will of the people I just do not trust them to deliver when it comes to a vote.
     
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  5. To avoid any Parliamentary vote would be very anti democratic and tantamount to a dictatorship. Parliament is there to specifically protect democracy.

    As I have said all along, whatever is finally agreed business will make or break it.
     
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  6. Yesterday the pound at $1.19 and today after the speech it's $1.24 which is the highest one day gain since 2008

    Anyway, the votes shuts up a lot of the whingers and in a way it was right to allow it but there is a caveat or two thrown in with that.

    David Davies repeated, no deal is better than a bad deal.

    Also however, no matter what happens, at the end of 2 years all the gloves are off and all old deals cease and if no deals are made with the EU then we are free of any EU input completely. That is a far bigger risk for The EU, particularly Germany than it is to us. Don't forget, they still have to find the £9-10 billion yearly shortfall from somewhere once we leave
     
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  7. In typically wet language the Times this today report that Theresa May will repeat Philip Hammond's "threat" that Britain could become a low- tax, low-regulation economy "if talks with the EU break down".
    Threat..? If... Talks break down...? That the fuck are they talking about? That is precisely what we should be looking to do anyway and the EU's feelings on the matter are utterly irrelevant. We are leaving the EU. We will be an independent, sovereign country. We can do what we like. We don't need to discuss our economic policy with anyone else or beg the EU's permission. There is nothing to negotiate with Europe, no deals to be brokered. We have a fantastic opportunity to become an off-shore Hong-Kong. The EU, the ECHR, the ECJ, the Commission, the single "market", the sclerotic, protectionist customs union, none of it will have any jurisdiction over us whatsoever.
    Of course we should be a low tax economy, low regulation economy. We should be slashing business taxes to the lowest rates in Europe and burning all the red tape. We waited forty years for the opportunity. If Europe doesn't like it, compete or die.
     
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  8. An excellent speech from May today. - Nice and clear.
    Especially the bit about being prepared to walk away with no deal if it's not the right deal. - Cameron could never say that.
    I'm really positive and optimistic about the future of the UK in the medium/long term. My glass isn't just half full but flowing over the edge. :upyeah:
    I wish all the remoaners had the same attitude.
     
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  9. Put sturgeon in her place, she knows she can't do anything now for 2 years as the deal will then be done and will go to parliament for a vote. Nick can't be seen to jump the gun as before, any deal must go before parliament to be voted on.
     
  10. wrong again, i see a theme here
    may put 62% of the Scottish population in the right place.
     
  11. Helmet Head was banging on again today about another Indy Ref being almost inevitable now. She can't call one, she can't win one and she knows it.

    Faron on the news using terms like "ripped out of the EU", "This isn't what the people voted for". Nobody's being ripped out, we are marching out to a bright and glorious future and this is exactly what the people voted for.
     
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  12. counting sheep or hen pecked?
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  13. Not at all fin, the only theme in front of you is that you continue to refuse to see what it actually was, a U.K. vote. The U.K. voted, the result was what it was, we now move forward.

    Yes it really is that simple.
     
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  14. But what about those poor villagers, goatherds and highland cattle friends who voted against?

    It doesn't even matter that they don't know what they were voting for, or against ... democracy is one man/haggis, one vote!
     
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  15. I saw him describe it as a "theft of democracy" which funnily enough is what I though 9 liberal mp's were
     
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  16. It's only in the UK that people could be so scared to think "the unthinkable" - clearly a healthcare system that bases entitlement simply on residence will be strained by any significant population increase, unless that increase generates a matching increase in tax revenue - the NHS costs more than £2000 per person, per year. Increase in population can stem from immigration and/or births, amplified by elderly people living longer.

    The "fake life scam" article suggests that a quite low "minimum income before importing spouse" threshold is being thwarted - the threshold is less than £20K. The only way that £2000 per year NHS funding per person can be sustained (let alone increased) is if plenty of individuals, or family units, earn a lot more than £20K.
     
  17. perhaps the difference is that you lot will willingly just lye down , roll over and wait to be lied at again,, but thankfully we up here will not..
     
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  18. Yeah, without a hint of irony in his voice. He's the slimy toad saying he's going to vote against the will of the people of the UK. :Meh:
     
  19. You lot will do what we tell you to do,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now sssshhh. :Hilarious:
     
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