I take your point but I would like to think that decisions are taken based upon evidence and rational thought rather than "that sounds like a good idea".
cock. :smileys: ayhoo, it was for people that didn't know how cynical you have become, interspersed with examples of you resigning yer self to fate. i pity those in yer english regions, many of whom will still believe in community first, commodity second . no hope, no point. why bother.
I'm doing something about my fate, finm, same as you are. Things will have to get a lot worse before they can change. Trump and Brexit are warning shots to the powers-that-be but the political elite will shake it off in both cases. No, there will have to be a reason for the majority to wake up and smell the caffeine. Professional ex-Scotchmen like that Bath resident who scribbles PigsOnTheWing.com are not the wake-up call, any more than Holyrood, a Ducati Forum and a MSM publication are. It will be what it always is: many, many people are cold/hungry. Mild disgruntlement or apoplectic incoherence (North of the Wall) are no substitute for the real thing.
deffo, and we up here are miking it to the max. realpolitik. in or out, indi or not. if done correctly, it will work in our favor. considering a large slice of our income comes from tourism, i believe per capita we export more to the EU also. we have to get the message out, show the world we aint whats been reported about the uk in general. obviously i will generally focus on my side, but from what i have seen, hmm, right or wrong, the uk isnt being reported abroad as the nicest place to be at the mo. Scotland more favorably. don't want to be guilty by association.
The Scottish are guilty, fin. I'll do a list when Rob tells me he's bought more storage in the Cloud. I'd estimate about 12TB more required, and that's just for the text. Rob, how is that server farm purchase coming along?
i look forward to pointing to every example and saying "thats westminsters man in Scotland" not the Scottish. :Finger::smileys:
Loz shhhhhh if you copy and paste my posts, fin will see me. He's pretending to have me on ignore but he still reads my posts I'm sure
Saying you are on ignore but still reading your posts? That's a Westminster trick, that, and unbecoming behaviour of a citizen of a superior form of government.
:Hilarious:. i can only assume the boy recons his opinions are worth something to me. which of course they aint. but hmm treason you say, nah, still cant be arsed looking. :Smuggrin::smileys:
He used to do that to me, then just took me off ignore even though I asked to be put back on. He's a strange fella.
A forum I use to use had a bloke like Fin in. Every time he was confronted about his bullshit he would have a hissy fit then tell people publicly in main he was putting people on ignore. Then when he came out with his bs, he would stand on a rock decrying, there is no one with facts to dispute my facts, there was of course but he had put them all on ignore so he didn't have to see them. Every now and again he would slip with facts or challenges that he could not have seen unless he had looked :greatbritain:
Came across a bit of interesting history and always had a lot of respect for Tony Benn; very sincere in his views even when I usually disagreed. The video is worth a listen. He really saw the problems way back.... Tony Benn 1974 - ''This huge Commission building in Brussels, in the shape of a cross, is absolutely un-British. I felt as if I were going as a slave to Rome; the whole relationship was wrong. Here was I, an elected man who could be removed, doing a job, and here were these people with more power than I had and no accountability to anybody. My visit confirmed in a practical way all my suspicions that this would be the decapitation of British democracy without any countervailing advantage, and the British people, quite rightly, wouldn't accept it. There is no real benefit for Britain.'' Now let's consider how the rights of the British people over the last few decades have been given away by our MPs treaty by treaty to people in the EU not accountable to us, not elected by us & who cannot be removed by us... Tony Benn on the Lisbon treaty & the EU > 'In a democracy sovereignty belongs to the people. If parliament transfers sovereignty away in treaties such as Lisbon then it is stealing rights that don't belong to it because an MP is lent powers of the public for 5 years. But if in those 5 years you give it away to somebody else then you can't repeal those laws. This is a theft of public rights.' Five questions from Tony Benn ''If one meets a powerful person--Rupert Murdoch, perhaps, or Joe Stalin or Hitler - one can ask five questions: 1] What power do you have? 2] Where did you get it? 3] In whose interests do you exercise it? 4] To whom are you accountable? 5] and, How can we get rid of you? Anyone who cannot answer those questions does not live in a democratic system.”
I also wonder how Enoch Powell would see the world now. I think his prophesies of the future were much nearer the mark than any polictians have been since his "Rivers of blood" speech almost 50 years ago.
He'd have said "Well, it's been shit, but now we can see the light at the end of the tunnel with Brexit and President Don". "Now if the Remainians can just stop moaning, they are giving me a headache".
