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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. theres no numbers for Scotland? so where do you get all your non facts then? :smileys:
     
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  2. Nothing wrong with Guy setting out his terms, we have so both sides have established the basic wish lists. Where it ends up will be slightly different as both sides will not be 100% happy but both sides will sell the end agreement as a win win

    He does need to wash his hair more often though
     
  3. You posted a wings over sumerzet link and also the imf figures within the sumerzet twitter, those imf figures will not show Scotland as Scotland is not recognised nor is Wales, Northern Ireland or England but just the U.K.

    Go lookee, sumz fucked up

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  4. Good job we are getting out then, is that your message here? :Wideyed:
     
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  5. what figures are included i our gers figers jv?
    so where do you get all your figures from then noob? where do the gers figures come from? about 15 of the categories are estimates but your happy to use them. what audience are you playing to?
    GERS was first published in 1992 under the then Conservative Party Government of Prime Minister John Major. It was published then by the Conservative's Scottish Secretary, Ian Lang. In a leaked memo from Lang to Major he stated the purpose of GERS was to "undermine" the UK government's rivals.[3][4]
    you where gonna tell us yer theory on this^
    or what about this?
    Hot heads, passports and Scotland’s new age of reason - Newsnet.scot
     
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  6. Fin

    you put up a tweet that claimed a figure as true but that was not correct. That very same tweet supported the first figures and had the imf link to them.

    I knew the minute IMF and Scotland was in the same sentence of figures then something was wrong.

    That tweet, those figures, were provided by you fin, no one else. You can't then go blaming everyone else and then trying to mr divert as usual, no one but you posted those figures.
     
  7. why do you use the mostly estimated and now proven distorted figures of gers when it suits?.
    what audience are you playing to?
     
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  8. Fin, many of us have used imf figures (correct ones) economists ones (those that ended up being correct too) the Medias's figures, the OBR's figures, the U.K. governments figures, a main competitor from Norway's Oil industry figures, , Scottish unions figures and yes even the Scottish snp's government figures and when they all say the same thing that the snp government has mismanaged The Scottish people's economy so much so that you would never surbive indi 2, you simply stick your fingers in your ears and go on about 300 years and gers. You right Loz, fin is crap at this :smile:

    I was thinking about joining an Abba tribute band but the big boots and lycra weren't my thing.
     
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  9. I'll chip in. :)
     
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  10. are you in a protected industry? if so, you can probably afford to.
    what was the man tactic used by project fear "light" during brexit?. noob?
    why do you use the now discredit gers figures when it suits.
    just wondering why you would do that.
    ram yer face palm loz. what was the main tactic use by project fear "light" loz? :Watching:
     
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  11. Got nothing to do with project fear light. medium, sugar free or even heavy fin.

    In fact if you look back through most of the posts it is more about how the snp mismanagement of the Scottish peoples funds to a point had you gone in 2014 you would be in kak deeper than dukes doom book and you are nowhere near financially being able to do it now or any time soon. If ya last straw is gers fin then that might explain the problem

    Scotland going indy might happen, some of us have said that it might be a federal amount of countries but 100% the snp have shagged it up for you any time in the near future.
     
  12. I have no idea, all figures are manipulated to make a point or support an argument.
    GERS seems a flawed system and it is that flawed nature that the SNP uses to discredit the figures and make political points, but that doesn't make the figures any more or less relevant than anything else. It is a bit like a speeder caught doing 110 disputing the accuracy of the speed gun.
    Whenever anyone quotes figures I think "yeah right". I am much more interested in the bigger picture and principles involved.
    My understanding is that there are no accurate figures for the Scottish economy, you can legitimately ask "why is that" but meanwhile I don't think we can make any true conclusions from any of this.
    Clearly Wings over Somerset were misrepresenting the true picture but what the true picture is I don't know, do you ?











    Really ?
     
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  13. it's not about indi as you keep thrusting in at every opportunity. you troll, i provide the side you wont repeat.
    for some reason you forget most of the poorest areas up here a labour, tory/lib run councils. why do you do that? .but hopefully not after next month tho.
    so, when for most of the 10 years previous when the figures where excellent who do we thank then? and bearing in mind there has been 8 years of austerity,in a country with mostly a rural population where public services are more expensive to deliver but provides more than enough over the period and with enough left over in tax receipts to cover it, yip austerity, where did that come from? who has pretty much full control of uk macroeconomics?
    obviously its just posturing at the mo but if it happens along with all the other threats do we blame for this? the scot gove?
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    and just to be clear, i aint trying to persuade you,noob. just expose you. your just a?.
    we get bombarded with your pish and forage 24/7. with only 3%and falling support for ukip
    would you say attacking peoples wallet and financial security was the main tactic?. did the bbc and the msm lie, a. not atoll, b. a little bit, or c. or was it full blown whoppers at every opportunity?.
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    you dont know whats in the GERS figures jv? put it this way, yer national infrastructure projects to name just one would be a lot more expensive for you if some clever :rolleyes: elite? is that the acceptable word for them? hadn't put some serious thought in to how to disguise them in somebody else's expenditure.
     
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  15. She'd get it :Hungry:
     
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