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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. repeat 10 times. i suspect you will have confused your self by then. and probably contradict your self by number 6. you just cant help yourself.
     
  2. eh, hang on a mo. it is about independence you twat.
    hypocrite.
     
  3. your slow, but you get there eventually. love you :heart:
     
  4. pillock, anyhoo
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  5. Is there any way that we could get finm to argue with some substance? Rather than his go-to ad hominem tactic?

    I mean, he's funny and all but I am beginning to suspect that he is a one-trick pony / single-issue horse's ass.

    :former forum hilarious smiley:
     
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  6. teehee, hypocrite. nice to have you back and reverting to type. hows that look loz? full stops in the correct place, spelling ok?
     
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  7. Composition seems to be your weakest attribute, finm. Repeated use of a word you don't appear to know the meaning of together with a propensity for bollocks that crosses over to the point of satire.

    Yep, you're looking good, finm auld buddy auld nutjob : o )
     
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  8. hmm being a smart arse deffo suits you loz, yer quite good at it. but following through seems to be yer issue. from the wrong end mostly. not very eloquently put but straight to the point no?
    anyhoo, got anything else to say about the topic at hand or are you waiting for backup?
     
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  9. Topic in hand? Which one? Post-Brexit Britain? Or slurring your speech after too many bowls of fermented haggis-juice?

    I'm happy either way. What would you like to ask me?
     
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  10. I have a feeling duke that you see reality, put it into an reverse enigma machine ,then quote what is obvious, in a way only you see.
     
  11. Happy birthday to the thread ..:party::party::party::beer::beer::beer:
     
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  12. How interesting, a left wing commentator coming within a whisker of admitting the obvious, that the EU is a single-direction project that cannot be reformed into something other than the thing it was designed to be.
    The idea that we remain a member and reform it from within into some sort of loose trade alliance between sovereign nations who retain full political independence is a fantasy more lurid than any of the nostalgic pre-war yearnings leavers are falsely accused of indulging in.
    The EU without political union is not the EU. To create such a thing would require more than treaty change. It would require the entire project to be dismantled and rebuilt and a completely different form. Almost every European institution with law-making powers (which is pretty much all of them except, ironically, the European Parliament) would have to be swept away and monetary and political union - the founding objectives - abandoned forever and their advocates retire quietly to their tax-payer funded wine cellars.
    Its never going to happen. There is no hard or soft Brexit. You are either fully in, or fully out. You either subscribe to the European project, which is the creation of a single European state, or you do not and you leave. We have voted to leave. Slowly, painfully slowly to those of us who have spent twenty years trying to point out the elephant in the room, the nature of the thing we are leaving is starting to dawn on people.
     
  13. while i agree with the brexit ambiguity. i recon there will be a lot of disappointed young adults out there should Corbins labour get in before the end of the brexit process. the two year window not the 10years transition period after.
    i applaud your steadfastness over the political situation rather than the immigration issue, shame some of you cant return the compliment from time to time
    but is there just the smallest chance that maybe, just maybe there is any credibility to his policies? is it true the uk center ground is described as far right on the continent? there is a left wing government just a few hundred miles north from where most of you are sitting doing just fine despite the oil crash and continuing to see growth and inward investment outstrip the rest of the uk for a few years now.with public services the rest of the uk would die for from a government with very little control of tax or the macro economic leavers thats never out the news for being shit?. i see the similarity between the attacks on corbin and my lot, by any means and on any subject possible. to the point i dont listen any more. cant imagine it's any different for the typical Corbin voter.
     
  14. The biggest problem fin is when you get some parties who it seems their main goal is, get the tories out at any cost rather than admit, somethings they do well, somethings they do bad but if our main goal is the U.K. then there are areas where we could work together.When parties so blind by hate and labours movement is a prime example as they follow the american democrats example of trying to ruin the country at any cost, just because they are not getting their own way, then those parties not in government show their true intent and colours.

    Corbyns policies are not that different from some previous labour parties and dare I say tories and other parties as well but buying a policy is not the same as buying a party. Since the election, Labours civil mask has started to slip and the real trotskies are coming out again and even independent analyst's looked at them and said hey, the ideas are not new but your figures will never add up and many doubt his front bench could achieve agreement within themselves let alone for the country

    People are now starting to see governments as facebook updates, i.e. I don't like that bit, swipe left, I want it changed immediately and it simply doesn't work like that

    As to the snp doing fine fin? come on, doing fine if you are a snp supporter but if you are a farmer, a fisherman waiting for payments, education etc, the rose tinted glasses are being used less and less in Scotland and the election results showed less Scots are prepared to put them on and the emotive saltire flag waving indi charade, is finally being recognised for what it is , a distraction over everyday issues.

    Are the tories great? absolutely not but if you are going to change them make it with something better, so far as the electorate have shown, there isn't anything better yet. Now you can do a democrats and blame the press, the media, the whoever else you want but those parties themselves have to ask questions of themselves, why did we lose so many mp's in the snp's case and why do people not trust us in government for Labour
     
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  15. once again you take me for an inexperienced fool.
    yer first paragraph is a v.accurate description of up here.
    about tho only credible thing i have ever seen you post.
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    second paragraph. many of corbans policies have been running up here for the last 10years up. fiercely opposed by S.Torrys and unbelievably by SLAB.
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    of coarse you don't like the facebook and blogs. they often come from people, real people wether academic or not looking to have there 3month rolling contract renewed. i think you call them jurnos. (aye,what ever)
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    4th, how much has the uk government just been fined for late CAP payments?.aqs for the rest it wouldnt matter what evidence i showed you, you are by far and away the most biassed person i have had the displeasure in dealing with. and after 5years of full bore politics thats saying something.
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    5th, lazy, easy. hypocritical vested interests and biased unbalanced journalism in action.
    no more time for you today. your the very person you re describing in that post.
     
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  16. No fin, you have shown that yourself. You were asking why can't you see what you see, I told you why not and you did your usual of lashing out. By all means kid yourself you are open minded but when it comes to politics, you are one of the least open minded when it comes to holding your own party to account.
     
  17. noob you dont tell me anything. well, actually you do, but not in a good way. it's not within you capacity to be balanced or impartial.
    you are by far and away the most biased person i have ever encountered.
    carry on folks. busy this morning.. to busy for the noob anyhoo.
     
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