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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. These issues would always be free votes and JRM would always be on the losing side.
     
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  2. He nearly did it himself when he drove that dragster down that runway in Yorkshire, and flipped it arse over tit. :confused:

    I think 1000/1 for a TV presenter to be next leader is rather generous myself. :thinkingface:
     
  3. Sarah Smith on the Sunday Politics yesterday had her 3 guests, including the fragrant Isabel, who all said May would not be Leader at the next election and her replacement will be a relatively unknown MP. I think they are right.
     
  4. Jacob Rees-Who? :upyeah:
     
  5. Much as I find JRM an interesting character I don't think he will become Leader.
     
  6. The fragrant Isabel referred to the "Little Beasts, who all think they are Big Beasts" :laughing:
     
  7. If it's the same Isabel then did you know her middle name was Euphemia ?
     
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  8. Sounds like something women treat with yogurt.
     
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  9. I think you're probably right but he should be in a senior cabinet position and he's very effective in front of the camera. Probably one of the party's best speakers. Certainly better than Boris who's an entertaining columnist but interviews very poorly. JRM has intellectual presence which mean he isn't easily deflected and he exudes sincerity, which as has been said, is a creditable characteristic whether you agree with him or not. You have to take him seriously. He's an underused asset.
    The trouble is, I suspect May is so weak she is fearful of allowing anyone too able to take the limelight, which is a mistake, for her and the government.
     
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  11. Yep, I'd rather see JRM or Ruth Davidson as next leader, rather than Boris. He's an intelligent fellow, but is all over the place in front of a camera. I wouldn't be overly disappointed if it were Boris though, all three are electable.

    I do however think that the choice of Hammond or Rudd would throw Corbyn into office.
     
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  13. The european parliament vote on whether there has been enough movement on the leaving before they can discuss the new relationship arrangement can happen, happens today. I suspect they will vote no.

    Ireland is little more than a pawn to hit us over the head with but on the other two points, they want a shed load of cash and eu residents of the U.K. will not have the country they live in, the U.K. as their ultimate legal authority meaning the eu wants to create a two tier legal system within a non eu country, they know they will not get that and that is why they put those two in there, so there would be no movement.

    It will be interesting to see what words they use should they vote no
     
  14. No surprise that they never admit it until they've retired.
    Presumably the nice fat pension is tucked up under the bed by then.
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  15. What a pompous cnut.
     
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  16. As expected, this mornings vote by the european parliament has supported the european top table and said there is not enough forward motion for their demands to enable them to proceed to the next step of the new relationship. This was expected as it becomes clearer they do not want a deal and wto is looking more likely.

    There was some clarity within Mr Barniers statement afterwards particularly on the mooted 2 year transition period. He was very very clear that during that 2 year-ish period, the U.K. would not have left the eu so would still have to abide by eu rules such as the ecj, echr, open door migration, paying the full fee's and all future projects but still would not be able to vote on most things as we were leaving.

    This also would mean not implementing new deals sorted out with other countries that would have started in 2019 as we would still be technically in the eu. So we would have to hope our new partners would be prepared to wait till 2021 at the very earliest. The more this goes on the more the eu's position is clear, leave us then you have no deal, We should stop wasting time and just get on with it.
     
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  17. This is completely unacceptable.
     
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  18. Great news, Now Theresa needs to grow a pair of balls the size of Maggie's and tell them where to stick it. :upyeah:
     
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  19. Ha-ha, ha-ha, ha-ha............(a la 'mishter khey')

    All this debate on this thread.........what a waste of effing time........I told you ages ago it would all be a complete bollox up.

    And that's despite me wanting 'out' too.
     
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