Niceties about our relationship with the EU, and who wants what aside, how are the EU going to fund themselves after we leave? Is there any information on what the remaining EU members are in for? There will be a huge chunk of money missing soon - but not soon enough for me. Compare that with EU countries within NATO and the percentage of GDP. There appears to be a dichotomy.
I'll take that challenge but on my terms not your attempt to control positives One of the biggest challenges we will have within the next 20 years will be just how many of our kids, grandkids and beyond, will have an actual job to go to. Technology, as we have seen with social media, is sucking people in to then ask the questions after. If we start now monitoring/controlling our immigration need versus skills needed/shortfall then I do feel as the jobs start to go away then our immigration will decrease. Being harsh, it's like europeans who come here AFTER we pull out and all the obligations have finished., will effectively be used like agency staff so when we need to reduce the workforce due to technology, we protect those legally here for the long term, first. This will see I am sure, more of our own youth with a reduced job market, take up skilled roles where our shortfalls are, engineering, doctors, etc etc. Now before anyone thinks this is harsh, we won't be the only country planning for technology versus jobs, versus migration future needs. Practicality has it's ups and downs. And yes I will go on about poorer nations fin. Since the 70's and our first tv in black and white, we saw genuine needs through ethiopia and how the west can help. Unfortunately many big charities are now very big business's and it very much suits them to keep the status quo rather than give the poorer countries the tools to stand on their own two feet. eu has expensive tariffs on food stuffs from many poor nations to a point eu food is cheaper, food subsidies have made eu foods so cheap that we can even dump our surplus's in Africa to undercut the local farmers. How can it be that we use charities like a colonial power to keep poor countries dependent on us whilst at the same time block and undercut a potential way out of poverty? We as a country of one, can make changes that make sense and genuinely help the poorer countries in a way the eu will not allow. And fin, no matter how much the snp whinge and whinge about , well most things really, they have more control over their future within the U.K. than they ever would in a organisation of 27 with a non elected top commisioner table. Other points to consider, many of the real world eu positives have been pushed by the key players of the eu of which the U.K. is one. Often however, improvements within our own country have been stimmied because we think it has to be euro wide where some countries are so backward that they could never achieve such standards or wish too. In some ways it's a bit like the bright kids in class being held back to make sure we all dumb down. We will now be free to make U.K. specific decisions based on U.K. specific needs without the compromises of 27 other countries who may not have the same wishes or needs as us.
fail. you know, you could of saved half of yer time and just said immigration. we know thats the key issue, we know there was safe guards and rules in place to cover that, we know who had the power to deal with it we know who didn't and who used it as a weapon. we know being by being out the EU, the same people will exploit who they can, where ever they can. save the crocodile tears for the dim, if 500mill cant change the priorities of business and natural selection, good luck doing it with a divided 60mill. anyhoos. suns oot, and your full of bull. (real world speak) i will no doubt witness more of it later.
The difference is fin, when out of the eu, we can hold our own to account, we could not in the eu best you get out in the sunshine, bbc weather says you have an hour booked between 4 and 5
Time to take head out of the sand and look at the impact a no deal Brexit will have. The anti EU rhetoric is wearisome in the extreme when combined with the lack of acceptance of fact.
To many smoke and mirrors going on as shown by your links The first link made it clear, brexit was not the issue but uncertainty was. Britian wants to negotiate, under barnier, the eu does not. Always going to cause uncertainty when one side turns up to negotiations just for the camera. The second link is piffle. The banks can ask for whatever they want but there is a hint in there I will revisit. The banks like any other employer after 2020 will have to apply to bring migrants over on the basis of work specialised for need and that they will leave when that work expires or seek an extension. Now, this is what the very same banks do with the very same staffing level, doing the very same jobs but come from outside of the eu so it isn't as though they don't do it already. If anything it highlights that no matter where you come from, you will have to go through the same process which is part of the equality controlled migration offers. The little hint was that even the banks are now by actions, recognising we are going through with it and the U.K. will remain the financial hub of the world, a little bit contrary to the mischief makers arguments. Your head maybe in the sand but again there is no, no deal. There are two deals, one is under a mutual agreement and the other is under wto. The U.K. want's a mutual agreement and the eu wants us to go to wto there is no anti eu rhetoric,there are an awful lot of facts and information why the majority of the vote wanted to leave the eu project and continual facts are born out by the eu negotiation teams actions.
Rees Mogg is the ultimate 'elite'. Monied, privileged background, encourages his clients NOT to pay UK tax yet claims to be a true patriot acting in the interests of his country. If ever there was two faced bollocks being talked he talks it.
The first link made it clear, brexit was not the issue but uncertainty was. Britian wants to negotiate, under barnier, the eu does not. Always going to cause uncertainty when one side turns up to negotiations just for the camera. Uncertainty, caused by Brexit. which bit was difficult to understand.
Let me help you with a quote from your own article There are signs that many EU companies are holding back on using British firms in their supply chains - which can involve parts criss-crossing borders several times - because of what they still don’t know about tariffs, regulations and the potential for costly delays at the border. It's not the events themselves, which are going to happen, but the uncertainty around them Brexit is happening whichever deal we chose/agree it's the uncertianty that worries business just a late addition. Project fear failed and ever since then project undermine has been in place. The links you put up are similar to this from the Guardian today https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/12/one-million-students-call-vote-brexit-deal It claims one million students will protest and insist on effectively a second vote. Then like your links, you look closer and all is not as it seems. What it actually turns out to be is matey Doku, deputy president of the National Union of Students, said: “When over 120 elected student officers, representing nearly a million young people, call for something with one clear voice, they need to be listened to 120 student reps who were attending a Labour student union event, that was being pushed as 1 million demand a peoples vote on the deal. This is consistent with project undermine, Thankfully you only have to scrape the skin off the top of the pudding to see there is little other than blancmage underneath.
Oh dear God.....NOOOOOOOOOOOO https://news.sky.com/story/no-brexit-trade-deal-will-up-fish-and-chip-shop-prices-11370479 Seriously, what the actual fuck of all that's fuckery. Good job I'm not a fan then eh. Sky News, bunch of
Which kinda proves my point about project undermine. Whilst posting something that seems relevant, it is little more than suggestions with very little real action or basis What duke doesn't do is explain who this gent is Look through his political career section and see how many times "european parliament" is mentioned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Agag And this from the eu themselves http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/4315/ALEJANDRO_AGAG+LONGO_home.html
The company who produced that report is rabobank, Rabobank is a dutch company which also has major investment in food and fisheries. Their ceo Wiebe Draijer , is also a Member of the Board of the Dutch Banking Association, and a Member of the Board of the European Association of Cooperative Banks (EACB). To understand why it is important to the dutch to fish our waters, Unless we allow europeans in some form to fish our waters, then many european fleets will be decimated as they did to ours when we joined the eu. They know what is coming as they have done it to us before. Dutch paper explains why Robobank might be producing reports not for our benefit, they also forget to mention tariffs go two ways and if we have all the fish, europe pays our prices https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2017/...strongly-to-ban-on-fishing-in-british-waters/
Unfortunately project undermine knows that a lot of people won't bother considering looking for that nugget of information. They'll simply see that Brexit is supposedly ruining Fish and Chips And nor will they pick up on the Web page layout and the fact that the following and final statement: "If such tariffs were imposed, the report speculates that the UK could retaliate. One such move would be to introduce hefty tariffs on Scottish salmon, herring and mackerel, which are all popular in Europe." Is positioned past a table of other Brexit links and sandwiched between those and a bunch of PPI adverts, conveniently the least viewed section on any web page, which anyone who uses Google analytics will be able to tell you, and Sky will abolsutely know that as well the sly buggers
So your saying his view is not worth anything since it doesn't agree with yours? The fact that it is people like him who will make or break the success or otherwise of Brexit makes his view far more valid than a bunch of xenophobic politicians who prefer to live in the dark ages. I suspect the people he employs in the UK might very much disagree with you.
