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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. yeah, bravo, viva la revolution. hmm, bit to french eh? sorry.
    noob noob what intoodeep said, what you got to say about that? he slagged of yer prestigious media and uk democratic institutions. fugging grievance monger yes?.
    no, he's a good patriotic kipper, pointing out a democratic deficit. ZZZzzzZZZ.
     
  2. Most of the UK problems are down to American influence not EU influence.

    Where did the banking crisis start? USA

    Where does the benefits system of something for nothing come from? USA

    Corporate greed? USA

    Obesity? USA

    Breakdown of family life and values? USA

    Companies run for the benefit of the few? USA.

    No responsibility for your actions? USA.

    Multi nationals not paying their fair share of tax? USA.


    USA influence over the UK will increase too if the Tories have their way.
     
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  3. Fin, lay off the moss juice, can you put that statement in English instead of Gaelic?
     
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  4. Cheese burgers - USA


    THOSE FUCKERS :triumph:
     
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  5. Blimey, dukes started on the beaujolias early this evening, we normally have to wait at least till 21:30 hrs for his pearls of wisdom
     
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  6. : o D

    If only Brits weren't so weak-willed. They certainly wouldn't be weak-willed if they had the EU telling them how to live their lives instead of the Americans.
     
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  7. We need a bravofromtheoldforumsmileys
     
  8. Mr lighting, appeared to suggest that your respected uk media is somewhat less than impartial, he went on to say that the mother of all parliaments should have a fucker placed directly after the mother in the title. do you concur? or, do you think he is just another sore loser and grievance monger, blind to his own party's discrepancies?, ukip pretty much have ceased to exist after all. or, a proud and patriotic brit merely pointing out a democratic deficit in the EU along with the lack of democracy inherent in the uk parliamentary system?.
     
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  9. A little rascal merryment for you who still only see us versus them despite being told, look at what is happening in the eu

    Today, the German coalition government interior minister Horst Seehofer has told Frau Merkel that unless she puts into place restrictions on Migrants coming into Germany, that he will order migrants to be stopped at the German border.

    His argument is that the standards on asylum and refugee's must be honoured so that if they have registered in other eu safe countries, then that is where they must stay and any migrant already registered in the eu will be refused entry into Germany.

    Merkel knows if she does not do this, her coalition partner will withdraw from the coalition and cause new German elections and she is likely to lose even more seats but more likely her own.
    http://www.independent.com.mt/artic...government-as-Merkel-ally-face-off-6736191915

    Germans ignoring Schengen and stopping migrants travelling into Germany, keep that line in your mind

    If you watch this video of the european council from 19th January 2016 see what Mr Verhofstadt says about shengen and Germany with borders. Watch from around 50 seconds and then tie it in with Germany today

     
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  10. Pornhub - USA

    FUCKERS :mad:
     
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  11. I thought you'd be happy with that fin, you claim it all the time

    Have you been watching Rap video's again?

    Agreed, most accept that ukip is like the snp, a one trick party only ukip won its battle so is now having a rest

    Within that video fin had you watched it, you would have seen sinn fein and the dup agreeing also in regards to the eu's abuse of democracy
     
  12. meh, the sinn fein MEP ? seems a lil out of step with his country on that one particular issue.
    Stephen thanks you for answering his question fully without missing anything out. Stephen wasn't disappointed.
     
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  13. That was in 2016 before Varadkar had been appointed, speaking of which :D

    The eu December agreement last year was saying the Irish Border was a massive problem for them.

    But, on the 4th October last year the eu announced it would be taking the Republic of Ireland to court over their tax deal with Apple and the eu claimed the republic owed the eu 13 billion euros in non collected taxes.

    Now call me a cynic, you can, honest when you type into the guggle the eu are to take ireland to court over apple tax deal
    The page presented is this https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=t...ome..69i57.17667j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    now, scroll down about half way and you will see this title in the results
    State aid: Comission refers Ireland to court for failure to...-Europa EU

    this headline is for the eu's own website where the decision and case is listed but when you click on the page you get

    http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-3702_en.htm

    It makes no mention of it since then. Were I a cynic and knowing Bernier does not want a deal and is manouvering for Junkers job next year, I wonder if Bernier has said, be my bitch over brexit and when I get appointed we can lose the Apple tax issue? just an opinion
     
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  14. Are we reading the same material??
    My understanding is that EU wanted Ireland to force Apple to pay the tax not Ireland...
    So you agree with Amazon paying f@ck all tax whilst having $ billions turnover?
    From your link
    Luxembourg gave illegal tax benefits to Amazon. As a result, almost three quarters of Amazon’s profits were not taxed, “ said Margrethe Vestager, European competition commissioner. “In other words, Amazon was allowed to pay four times less tax than other local companies subject to the same national tax rules. This is illegal under EU state aid rules. Member States cannot give selective tax benefits to multinational groups that are not available to others.” The move comes 14 months after the commissioner ruled Apple’s Irish tax arrangements granted it an illegal advantage and ordered Ireland to recover a record €13bn in back taxes. Tired of waiting for payment of that bill, Ms Vestager decided on Wednesday to refer Ireland to the European Court of Justice for failing to implement its 2016 decision.
     
  15. I never mentioned amazon

    As to Apple, if the eu wanted the money from Apple, they would have gone after Apple, they didn't, they are referring Ireland not apple to the european court
     
  16. Yes, that evil EU again, trying to get corporations to pay their share of tax. Outrageous. Cant imagine what the UK government could dislike about it....:thinkingface:
     
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  17. No problem with the collecting it but, they haven't have they
     
  18. No, you did mention Amazon because it sounds like EU done a positive step towards defending other (local)Luxembourg based businesses...and this puts EU in a good light. Tough to admit for Brexiteers not all EU laws are bad...so let's just pick up the part that suits us.

    EU wants to achieve Ireland to tax Apple same percentage as other businesses there, so ultimately is going to Apple that has to pay...depending on the outcome.
    Irrelevant from the EU, in my opinion it is not fair for any government to offer some "tax arrangments" for some businesses whilst other businesses might struggle to pay the "fair" tax. See amazon paying 4times less than local businesses. Why?
    There is a law for EU members forbiding the above..which in my humble opinion if only fair to keep an "even level" playing field.
     
  19. I'm pretty sure I didn't mention amazon, happy to concede if you can show where I did

    as to some companies yes and some companies no on tax arrangements, I think you will find most countries tax organisations have something similar to customer account managers, in our case hmrc, for the larger companies

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/hm-revenue-and-customs-large-business
     
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