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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Fella from Aston Martin seems pretty non plused by Brexit this morning. He ships to most countries, they have no customs issues. Only minor concern was short term delay while its sotted, so already sticking 5 rather than 3 days parts usage.

    Sensible, thought through, planned.
     
  2. I was in a meeting with a senior Ford exec yesterday. He wasn’t confident about UK production following Brexit.
     
  3. Dysons hoping that the rudiculous EU ruling of a maximum wattage on vacuum cleaners will be repealed and he’ll be able to design a Dyson that will actually suck up the nails holding the floorboards down as well as the carpet.
     
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  4. To be honest El, like most multi nationals they rarely give a fuck about a nation other than just the bottom line.

    Would I be right in saying that Ford no longer build cars in the U.K. having stopped in 2002 and Transits in 2013. Now they only build Engines and Gearboxes in the U.K. Fiesta's are built in Germany and Spain, focus in Germany and Transits in Turkey and Spain. I'm sure they only keep the gearbox and engines going in the U.K. through fear of a backlash against Ford if they built nothing here.

    Them early dysons were dangerous if you stuck the wrong thing in them, just saying
     
  5. From that article YOU submitted in regards to Panasonic....

    Mr Abadie told the Nikkei Asian Review that Panasonic had been considering the move for 15 months, because of Brexit-related concerns such as access to free flow of goods and people.

    The newspaper said employees dealing with auditing and financial operations would move, but those dealing with investor relations would stay in the UK.

    Up to 20 people could be affected out of a staff of 30.

    Really?
     
  6. Going back as far as 15 years ago I used to do IT work for Ford's main building contractor and the engine plant in wales was in constant fear of closure due to production moving etc.

    It's nothing new
     
  7. https://twitter.com/JasonJHunter/st.../JasonJHunter/status/1034820279539851265?s=19

    Even extreme remainers are entitled to their say but his anto brexit rants offer little new, even less so given he seems to have joined almost every anti brexit group there is. I did find funny on his lbc chat that he said the U.K. would lose a million jobs but when explaining how and talking about sme's, there was the usual, could, might, may, possibly about him
     
  8. Very simple one, the article you put out against Brexit, was Panasonic saying they may make too much money IN the U.K. after Brexit and so much so that it might effect their tax liability at home in Japan. Making too much money was your point against brexit :joy:

    And when you try and imply job loses, upto 20 people out of just 30, COULD be effected, come on surely you can do better than that, there isn't even a definately or even a big number, but possibly 20 people:joy:

    You're funny dude, keep em coming
     
  9. You can go paul daniels all you want but if your point is about Brexit being harmful and your support of that is the company you put forward as an example of that, says they will make too much money in the U.K. then your even more shit than fin at this, hugely entertaining, but shit never the less.
     
  10. Do people not understand that the UK cannot simply abandon Brexit and revert to our previous terms of membership. That was voided by invoking Article 50. We would be in the position of having to rejoin as a new member. The uncertainty - which is what business fears, not the settlement itself and certainly not complete severance - of rejoining would be far greater than with proceeding with Brexit. There is absolutely no possibility giving up and staying as we are. "As we are" is dead and gone. There is no going back and to suggest that we can simply call the whole thing off and press reset is pure fantasy.
     
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  11. So IF Parliament insisted on another referendum ( which i suspect will be the only option if no agreement is reached) and the Country voted to stay in the EU then you would view that undemocratic?
     
  12. I've been receiving election material from the Ruth Davidson party over the last month or so.
    coincidence?
     
  13. What we do know as democratic is that we have already had a peoples vote and from that article 50 was launched.

    Anything else is the usual remainer, might, could do, maybe so until the deal or free trade option/wto is selected, then as usual duke, it's just you being silly because you lost a vote.

    Fin, I wrote to Ruth and said you wish to join her core group and wanted to be the tory promoter for your region, she did say she would be in touch
     
  14. We could vote to leave 5 more times and parliament could vote the deal down every time. Is that democratic ?
     
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  15. Leaving aside any personal preference, it seems that the Brexit could be stopped with the same conditions being reinstated, and no requirement to rejoin.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-leave-eu-remain-juncker-europe-a8464341.html
     
  16. I have the wonderful task of guiding my organisation's European/UK supply chain through BREXIT.

    From a non partisan perspective, the big issue is one of business continuity (not whether or not we will be trading WTO etc).

    Business continuity means different things to different businesses - Aston Martin may well have to add a couple of days inventory cover as a mitigation of increased leadtimes.......this is the right thing to do for AM but for you and I it has little consequence as we don't buy an AM every day of the week and wont notice any real difference.

    There are other industries where this is definitely not the case - ie fresh food distribution through the supermarkets to name but one. Fresh food supply chain probably has around <=5 days of stock in it...and a high proportion comes from the EU (20-40%?). Delays in this supply chain will have immediate impact on all of us and has the potential to turn very ugly very quickly if mitigation actions are not put in place to secure supply (which I'm sure they will be). Energy supplies would be another example.

    These are real risks and it is simplistic to assume that because AM will be OK we are all safe. There are countless Supply Chain professionals racking their brains at the moment to work out how we keep things running with minimum disruption as these are very real threats, not simply a politicians soundbite or someones opinion on whether things will be better or worse when we're out.
     
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  17. too much talk about smelly fish, this is important but only one very small issue in comparison to all the other major issues & the crap the EU are dishing out...lets face it the French & Germans are arrogant gits & don't like us anyway so theres No Chance of a deal to suit us Brits, f*ck em off walk away & we can then get on with it our own way with no interference from them... if we cant make a good go of it on our own no other country can...end of
     
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  18. So I voted leave on the basis we would do a deal with EU on preferred terms that gave some more control over who we allow to move and work here (for those that cry racist I want more form other parts of the world, with the skills we need, rather than more in-skilled for EU). That deal would be put back to the electorate for a second in/out vote and we’d stay in on better terms. I’m pretty sure I wrote as much on a thread here before the vote...

    But, to be brutally honest, after the last two years of nonsense let’s just step out and deal with it! Had enough. And it’s the remoaners, not the govt, that have changed my mind and want really out! A set of blinkered, facist people who simply call names because someone dared to have a difference of opinion.
     
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  19. Totally agree, with EU and global support systems managed DR and other BCP (whether IT, contact centre, manufacturing back up) its not going to be easy (and hopefully keep me employed as a contract PM - I’m free from Jan btw ;) ) its the mechanisms behind business that will likely be missed.

    Can I buy import/export, can I pay/be paid, do I keep same rules/change rules by country are fairly easy: its when it fails the problems will come.

    When it comes to food etc, why not simply balance the export and import? OK, so we will have less oranges for a bit, but we grow more than enough for a reasonable choice, we can get oranges from Africa (Theresa has sorted that for us lol). Produce is shipped all over the world, to be rehydrated in the local county. Why is it that sale wilts in a day? Bananas go from green to brown in 3? Tomatoes get mushy after a couple of days in the fridge?

    Grow local, buy local, live global :upyeah:
     
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