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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Isn't stig part of the bbc, I know how much fin supports the bbc :D
     
  2. Actually, it is McStig and he is associated with the SBC, an organisation with a long proud history of existing only in finm's imagination.
     
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  3. true that.
     
  4. The Swedish votes are almost all in and being concluded this evening. The two traditional parties seem to be around 40% each with the Swedish democrat party reaching around 19%, effectively in a position to be a king maker

    Given Sweden is one of the more tolerant countries I wonder at what point the eu will finally "Get it". When even your most tolerant countries are saying to the eu commission, you are fucking this whole thing up, the eu is falling apart and the rise of the far right is caused by your actions.

    The eu have no plan for the migrant crisis, no plan for the rise in the right, no plan to bring the ship back on course other than sitting the crows nest saying nothing is wrong whilst the ship below them sinks.

    Remainers, was this the eu you voted for 2 years ago?
     
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  6. I see the Tories are now knocking ten shades of shit out of each other.............and blaming everyone but themselves.

    Putin must be pissing himself with the chaos going on in the West.
     
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  7. I think he laughs at your posts more duke

    Still if it helps you get through the day duke, rather than admit the eu commission are not listening to any of the 28, happy days for you.
     
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  8. I think we can all agree on the value of laughter and of a good joke.

    Particularly when he posts so regularly in the political threads *thumbup*
     
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  9. dingalingaling
    play times over.
     
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  10. I hoped you liked the SBC vid fin, I did chuckle on the last character who said he was a proud Scot then disclosed where he lived.

    It's like that evolution t shirt where you see the figures, I'm in two minds which one is fin and which one is duke. neither are the latter characters :D
     
  11. your in two minds? dude, if you had another brain it would be lonely. :D
    yip, didn't watch it all, its a bit dated, full of all the stereotypes, but funny enough in its day. took me back. its nice to hear yer own accent on the tv every now and then.
    but, i didn't watch it all but i can assume he dont live up here no more?. not much of an advert for the 5th richest country on the planet if you have to move away to find work. or maybe he was just a proud immigrant, sorry, expat?
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  12. He doesn’t laugh at them: he pens then ;)
     
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  13. Does suggesting you no longer want indiscriminate immigration and to take in the worlds poor make you right wing nazi racist?

    Or is it possible that it’s built on a view of people vs capacity, and you want people contributing more not taking note from the system and bringing in 100k people who can’t really work either on mainstream jobs, and opening up for them to bring in 200k more in families over time, is a matter of sensible economics?
     
  14. Does suggesting you no longer want indiscriminate immigration and to take in the worlds poor make you right wing nazi racist?
    no, not as a rule.
     
  15. In normal times, to say we are being flooded by unskilled migrants to a point that wages are being pushed down so let's have a controlled migration system that allows in skilled migrants for positions where our shortfalls are.

    In current times, some seek to call you a racist or far right for such a thought.
     
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  16. I used to live in a town on the Norfolk/Cambridegshire border. Most of the work was and remains, farmland and factory. Most of the work is done not direct but through gangmasters and agencies.

    Many of those gangmasters and agencies also have transport and properties. Those same gangmasters and agencies did/still do, refuse to take English people of any colour.

    The reason being is that they get the most desperate of unskilled migrants, place 10 or 12 into a 3 bed house and charge them all rent, they also charge them for transport to and from work, some will have paid those agencies/gangmasters to be brought over here to so an additional amount is taken from their wages as well for that "re-location to work cost"

    Often what their start wage is on their pay slip after legal deductions, is not what they end up with after the very tilted way they are employed and often are payed less than half the genuine legal wage.

    Those agencies/gangmasters in black and white pay the legal minimum wage, until the stoppages kick in in their favour. Because those who are the most desperate to come here will work for a wage even at a non legal uk wage, that is still more than their own countries average wage so yes, low wages are driving wages down as are people willing to work for peanuts
     
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  17. so braking/manipulating the law will stop and employers and buyers ethics will improve as a result of brexit?, goat, why didnt you say?
    :rolleyes:
     
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  18. If we have as expected, a seasonal worker permit scheme. This would hold employers to a far higher standard and a loss of a licence in the same way a publican or transport manager holds an individual licence to then employ others. Remove the farmers/agencies/gangmaster's seasonal workers permit, you stop it at source.

    Sadly many sleeping 5 and 6 to a room are not the type that look at legislative bodies, even more so those who are repaying a local gangmaster say in Romania who they owe money too.
     
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