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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Lisbon Treaty Article 8
    1. The Union shall develop a special relationship with neighbouring countries, aiming to establish an area of prosperity and good neighbourliness, founded on the values of the Union and characterised by close and peaceful relations based on cooperation.

    2. For the purposes of paragraph 1, the Union may conclude specific agreements with the countries concerned. These agreements may contain reciprocal rights and obligations as well as the possibility of undertaking activities jointly. Their implementation shall be the subject of periodic consultation.
     
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  2. Well today I have travelled from Denmark to Sweden and back with no border checks, no visas and no restrictions. I wonder why Scandanavians always rate highly as people who are happy in their lives? Even though they pay high taxes? Their public transport systems are brilliant. High investment, clean and reliable and usage is built on trust. No ticket collectors, no ticket barriers. Fantastic. Another European country we could learn so much from.
     
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  3. Sweden also now has a party with Nazi roots, holding the two conventional parties by the nutsack in a locked parliament, how do you account for that in a happy country?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_riots_in_Sweden
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45181321
    https://www.thelocal.se/tag/riots
    https://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/21/europe/sweden-stockholm-riots/index.html
    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/swedens-political-panic-attack/

    And these are just the noted sources, It must be fun riding around with a Rose tinted visor duke
     
  4. Got to love a consistent Toad! Just when you thought maybe the EU might think a deal could be done, Toad comes on TV and says the UK will likely renege on the agreement.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45541240

    Meanwhile IDS famous for all his brilliant ideas and successes over the years has a few choice words.

    Shambolic.
     
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  5. Gove has recently taken up pilates so he can be flexible enough to stab himself in the back, as he has run out of people to do it too
     
  6. how Will brexit effect the sale of my van?
     
  7. Are you going to put moon windows in the side, velour headlining and a supply of knockvurst in the glove box?
     
  8. Still you have admit Mayhem brought it on herself. No one expected or really wanted Toad to get back into the cabinet, until she invited him.
     
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  9. There will be no Brexit so your van will be stolen/burned rather than sold.
     
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  10. you know what i like about you?
     
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  11. Are we having bets on the answer?
     
  12. Not me, I won't get worthwhile odds on my guess!
     
  13. According to a 19th century legend, the Truth and the Lie meet one day. The Lie says to the Truth: "It's a marvellous day today"! The Truth looks up to the skies and sighs, for the day was really beautiful. They spend a lot of time together, ultimately arriving beside a well. The Lie tells the Truth: "The water is very nice, let's take a bath together!" The Truth, once again suspicious, tests the water and discovers that it indeed is very nice. They undress and start bathing. Suddenly, the Lie comes out of the water, puts on the clothes of the Truth and runs away. The furious Truth comes out of the well and runs everywhere to find the Lie and to get her clothes back. The World, seeing the Truth naked, turns its gaze away, with contempt and rage.
    The poor Truth returns to the well and disappears forever, hiding therein, its shame. Since then, the Lie travels around the world, dressed as the Truth, satisfying the needs of society, because, the World, in any case, harbours no wish at all to meet the naked Truth.



    "The Truth coming out of the well" Jean-Léon Gérôme, 1896
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  14. May announces that its her way or the highway today (radio 4 excerpts from Panorama interview). I was a little surprised, as this is out of character for her. Normally she splutters & says little except repeated sound bites -anyone remember Strong & stable? In a way I was pleased to see the lame duck actually had a little spark but its far too little & much too late. Its also totally untrue, and wishful thinking on her part. Her plans are very unlikely to pass in the Commons in their present form.

    I almost laughed when she muttered some inane things about how she didn't want some farmers in NI to be inconvenienced. Just how many farmers are there, compared with the other 64million people in the UK who are all having to compromise and be inconvenienced majorly. Its not funny really, the woman either hasn't got a clue what she is doing or has no idea how to explain it, or both of which is unacceptable for a PM.

    Bring on the leadership challenge and send this miserable insipid waffler to the Lords.
     
  15. Truth has just noticed Lie has left the seat up!
    bath.jpg
     
  16. I think that picture is one of the last women on Labours bench who hasn't had a bump n grind with Jeremy but has just been summonsed.

    May wont be replaced before brexit. Chequers will not approved but to remainers it will look like she has at least tried, it was brexit in name only.

    I found Christine Legarde's of the IMF (no not Tom Cruise's IMF) quite a chuckle today, she actually said europe would be hurt less than the U.K. when every single economist knows the eu, Germany more than many, will be hurt far more than the U.K.

    Remember this is the same IMF who rarely gets it right, did not forsee the 2008 crash and has a a convicted fellon where her conviction was less than 2 years ago of a massive tax payers payout whilst in government to a friend but avoided a jail sentence and that her conviction did not attribute a criminal record.

    Phillip Hammond at the same meeting said " a no deal will throw away all the financial benefits of the last 10 years" Given austerity has ranged for the last ten years, I'm not sure who has had the financial benefits, do you know anyone?

    Both however were right on one thing, both agree whilst in the transition period, the U.K. growth will be slower than europes even though due to european instability, the eu's is dropping. It must stick in their throat to say that even leaving the eu, the U.K. will still be increasing in growth.
     
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  17. The lords have enough insipid wafflers already and if it wasn't for them Brexit would now be a lot further down the road than it is.
    Send her to the back benches at the most, or if she doesn't like that, the dole queue, and let her take their self-appointed and self-important lordships with her.
     
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  18. She is part of the EU establishment and as you say, the IMF has an awful track record especially over the UK. Her statements are highly politically motivated. Her handling of Greece was cruel and it is a great pity that the court despite finding her guilty, didn't pass a sentence so it was brushed under the carpet!
    Just a few day's before the Brexit vote, she stated that the UK would; go into recession, property prices fall steeply, unemployment numbers grow and currency value crash. Well, the £ fell a bit so let's give her 1 out of 4
     
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