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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. This is an interesting moment, I think the "back me or sack me option" is going on as we speak. If TM lasts until this time next week then I think it's safe to say leave without a deal is dead in the water. Which leaves parliament to pass the withdrawal deal as it stands - they probably will on the 3rd or 4th time of asking once a few meaningless amendments are added.

    The only other viable options are a general election, doubtful because the electorate could return another hung parliament so TM won't take that option or another referendum, equally doubtful because TM would need to be removed from office for that.
     
  2. Please not another referendum.
    If the second vote was remain the leavers would feel obliged to shout it's 1 all, let's have a decider :)

    Can't we somehow get rid of the politicians and get a business man to sort it all out o_O
     
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  3. here ya go :)

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  4. *thread meltdown*
     
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  5. (1)Unless there is a decision saying otherwise in the current test case in the ecj, then there is no ability to have "no brexit"

    (2)If the test case says the government can stop it or article 50 can be stopped then in one single stroke, democracy dies because no matter what the result and direction given by any majority vote, it will all be in stasis awaiting a challenge

    (3)Her back me or sack me is only aimed at about 80 tory mp's. Anyone who watched the house yesterday saw almost every single individual bar a handful, said this deal will not fly. Even more so as her support, the dup said, not a chance

    (4) The eu and it's driver, Merkel said this morning after mentions it will not be accepted, has said effectively, tough, no more negotiation, this is all you're getting.

    (5) a no deal brexit is now almost inevitable.
     
  6. Thank Goat for that.

    Looks like TMs clever strategy has worked. The sly old cow!
     
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  7. Fingers crossed. :) :upyeah:
     
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  9. The fact the EU seem desperate to get this through, speaks volumes on how shit it is for the UK. :(

    We'd be the only country in the EU without the option to leave, ever. Every other member would have the option of an Article 50 retreat. The UK couldn't get out of this agreement without the EU saying it's OK to do so. That's frightening but very welcoming for the EU remain zealots who never want the UK to have the option to get out.
     
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  10. The vote was for a clean break and to become a independent third country, the same as 167 other countries in the world

    Nothing that has been offered by the eu or our own government, resembles that.
     
  11. I pray May loses, the EU will have to consider a meaningful concession on the Backstop to get it through. Otherwise uncontroversial agreements kept (citizens rights, aviation, security, etc) and we blast out into WTO new world
     
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  12. Ahhhhh so May has played a blinder, the EU is going to reject their plan so they get the blame and May says look its not my fault we have a hard brexit, suck it up fairy cakes.
    See that's why she is PM, smart lady.

    :party::party::party::party:
     
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  13. Merkel is actually helping by saying no more deals. Yep, I've it all sussed out
     
  14. I get that, though by renaming the customs union as a customs territory both the EU and UK Gov argue otherwise. It's a solution that suits big business. As a remainer I'm not at all happy with where we are heading, it's a halfway house no one likes. The referendum set us on one path but the hung parliament in the following general election was always going to lead us here.
     
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  15. To be fair, the senior civil servants were heavily criticised and the information they passed AR was so bad that by the end she could trust or use it. Home Office Civil servants should have been reprimanded/sacked. I think she is one of the rare breed of MP's with some integrity.
    “In preparations immediately before the hearing, the home secretary asked ‘are there removals targets’ and was told ‘no’,” Allen said. “That led to her firm denial (‘we do not have targets for removals’) in the hearing.”
     
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  16. It does seem with our civil servants, that "Yes Minister" was more of a recruitment/how to video than a parody.
     
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  17. It was meant to be a parody? Oh, I get it now... What 20 years too late?
     
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