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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Well you either follow

    All of them all of the time
    Some of them all of the time
    Or do your own thing. Some of them some of the time is meaningless.
     
  2. The fact that Merkel has started to sideline Juncker and will hopefully keep him away from the negotiations with the UK, bodes well. As they recognise that a good deal will benefit the EU and UK there is hope that a workable FTA will be agreed. There may still be a version of "freedom of movement" with some controls to ensure that only those with jobs will be come able to remain in the UK. Access to benefits will be after a period of paying tax, etc.
    There is a lot of pressure on the EU to reform and they also have some serious banking issues with the Italian banks and also Deutsche Bank with serious levels of bad loans. They really don't need to also have the financial markets falling due to EU hardliners trying to teach the UK a lesson.
     
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  3. In the mean time, Gove gets told to 'Do one' by his own Party. :tearsofjoy:
     
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  4. Tonights media seem to be wheeling out everyone who supports Theresa May.
    Damage limitation by the Remain camp to keep one of their own in the pre-warmed seat.
    I hope that the Conservative party membership give the scheming clique another bloody nose and vote for Leadsom as PM
     
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  6. yip. nothing like cutting off your nose to spite yer face.
    anyhoo. read this of T May today
    "Teresa May is to civil liberties as Vlad the impaler is to lawn ornaments"
    :Hilarious:. love the dug. he has a way with the words.
     
  7. I wasn't really thinking of socks and I don't know if they are covered by CE marking regs. I doubt the label would be on the socks anyway. It would wash off. More televisions, vehicle parts, anything that requires by law to Be CE marked. Your point on pillows is a good example though. The standards dont have to be inferior, just different. If we deviate in any way then that means

    More part numbers
    More product file admin
    More testing costs

    Manufacturers work to reduce the number of part numbers they run.

    They work toward reducing the number of suppliers they have and components they need to buy. Just look at the commonality of parts across Ducatis.

    You could have two products which are 99% identical, but that minor difference to meet the UK spec means

    More part numbers
    More testing
    More certification


    In the Middle East, some electrical equipment has to be supplied to a an American oil industry spec. If you don't have it, you can't sell it. It's a total ball ache.

    On a different tack, When the Japanese started selling VCRs, the French held them up at the docks for a year so Ferguson could design, build and sell them also. That's what we will be up against.
     
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  8. The EU may well have fallen apart by then, what happens next
     
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  9. Its time to hit the gin darling!..... London gin of course!
     
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  10. lovely balanced start to the article there...

    "Sneer by sneer, sound-bite by sound-bite, smirk by smirk – the BBC’s sorry collection of bitter and twisted presenters are trying to overturn the Brexit vote. "

    :tearsofjoy:
     
  11. "There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See"
     
  12. i'v taken to avoiding the BBC in particular SBBC where ever possible. quite a backlash up here re withholding the license fee. even their reporting of the protest held outside their own headquarters in 2014 was flawed. they said a couple of hundred protesters. in actual fact there was thousands.
    they are what they are. nothing more than a voice piece for their friends in government north and south. GLAVIT anyone?
    :Hilarious:
    meh. :smileys:
     
  13. indeed
     
  14. For CE regulatory requirements they did not need to change, it's a level playing field.

    For other UK regulatory requirements, they didn't change and as a consequence lost sales.

    For UK custom and practice, they did not change and the changes had to be done in the UK, where possible. Sometimes however, mechanically, the necessary adjustments could not be made and sales were lost.

    The point you seem to be missing even though you described it yourself, is that as soon as the UK deviates from the rest of Europe, it costs money so prices go up.

    More testing
    More certification
    More part numbers for finished product
    More part numbers at component level

    Or we just keep following the EU rules and take instructions without influence. So where does that leave the "ditching the red tape argument"?
     
  15. Good politics should be all about challenging decisions you see as wrong.
     
  16. I think you are wrong (but I'm good at politics) :)
     
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  17. I think you will find eventually that I am right and you are wrong. How long that will take and in what way that happens we will have to wait and see.
     
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  18. Pity so many like you are trying your best to make it appear wrong - if you all got a grip the future would be rosy :upyeah: join us and make this country great, stop your petty bitchin' :p
     
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