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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Just make sure payment is made to nintchdbpict000371435655.jpg my swiss bank account number 666 by the end of the working day..............and i will give you the UK.
     
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  2. One thing with May is that she still has her "friends " glasses on whilst the eu has "it's not personal, it's just business" glasses on.

    They have loaded the leaving agreement with loads of plan b, c, d e etc so covering most bases but in favour of the eu. Just on the transition period, which finishes so far on December 31st 2020. That date has been chosen because that is when the current financial 7 year cycle finishes. If we are still in that arrangement beyond that date, we will incur costs towards the eu.

    If we have no joint agreement within that period, we will go into the backstop which has NO legal out unless the eu agree's to let us out, effectively tying us to the eu.

    Extending the transition is the one open question in the withdrawal treaty: the transition could be extended only once until “31 December 20XX”. That “XX” is to be agreed in the coming days. Anyone involved in contracts knows an end date with an XX involved, should be treated very suspiciously

    It is a classic Goldilocks problem, too short and the transition would not be worth the negotiating effort; too long and both sides would be unhappy with the world’s sixth largest economy trapped in a broken-down marriage with the EU and with the U.K. having as much legal protection as a wife in a Saudi marriage
     
  3. yea, two more years plus of noobanalysis :upyeah:
     
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  4. As opposed to the last 4 years of fin scottish indi analysis? I have some catching up to do :D

     
  5. yip, you do, i guess thats why yer never done talking about it
     
  6. Says the man from 300 years ago , gerritupya :kissing_heart:
     
  7. gerritupyer? hmm.
     
  8. The group of ex pats who went to the ECJ to argue that the referendum in 2016 was invalid because they, and more than a million Britons living in the EU, were deprived of a vote under the absent from the U.K. for over 15 years rule., had their case rejected by the ECJ Today

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/201...itish-expats-brexit-referendum-harry-shindler

    I believe the scots group trying to clarify whether the U.K. government on it's own, can cancel brexit without the need of the other 27 members ( a technical question that even if answered, does not enforce they should) will be started to be heard tomorrow at the ECJ.
     
  9. More Dianne Abbot math from Sky. Poll currently sits at 88,700 odd.

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  10. I know, scroll to the bottom of the page and they tell you just how many two thirds of Britons are

    Sky Data interviewed a nationally representative sample of 987 Sky customers via SMS on 26 November 2018. Data are weighted to the profile of the population. Sky Data is a member of the British Polling Council and abides by its rules.

    https://news.sky.com/story/two-thir...v-corbyn-brexit-debate-sky-data-poll-11564488
     
  11. No rage sir let alone piss boiling,I haven't boiled piss since 82 and half way up Snowdon on a very cold winter March camping tour. Agree, my piss could settle the diesel and hydrogen car argument

    It won't pass parliament- she then has 21 days to put forward new plan-if that's rejected then
    renegotiate...unlikely
    No deal Brexit...likely
    a vote on the deal..unlikely but rising
    A general election where she makes the deal part of the manifesto..unlikely
    a vote of no confidence in her..likely if a renegotiate is turned down by the eu.

    And yet here you are, not for the first time, having an input :D

    Agreed

    The vote will be in the house on the 11th of December
     
    #17791 noobie, Nov 26, 2018
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  12. You forgot a vote of no confidence
     
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  13. they aint trying to cancel brexit as you well know, they are testing the two main partys and other brexitters potentially misleading statements that article 50 cant be reversed unilaterally busting Mays assertion that our only option is a bad deal or a no deal.
    stop lying noobster.
     
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  14. Finm with a wig and falsies :eek:
     
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  15. tho i was passing trumpton earlier in the year exe, this aint me, this is she
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  16. true - but it's easier just to ask those who have been following the process form the outset and analysing it - like thee f'rinstance :D
    analyzing it?, spinning it dude.
     
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  17. what on earth are you jibber jabbering on about now? Read it again numpty boy :D It makes it clear it is a technical question, the key there are the words "technical question" fin put down that scottish to english translator you got from uzbekistan, it keeps getting you in trouble, tut

    Here is what I wrote, can you point out where I said they were trying to stop it?
    I believe the scots group trying to clarify whether the U.K. government on it's own, can cancel brexit without the need of the other 27 members ( a technical question that even if answered, does not enforce they should) will be started to be heard tomorrow at the ECJ.
     
  18. I'm really concerned that when this gets voted down on 11th December there will start to be a real push by the remainers (and there are a LOT of MP's on that side) for a second referendum. This will cause Article 50 to be delayed; the EU will happily do so as they smell the reversal of Brexit and the chance to get us back (on worse terms).

    We need May to be forced to resign, then an uncontested Brexit leader (Davis) put in place to then push for the WTO exit and start to arrange for practical agreements with the EU who will hopefully look to prevent their exporters being negatively impacted. They do after all have about £50-55 billion trade surplus with the UK to jeopardise at a time when the EU economies are stuttering.

    A suggestion; write to your MP to make your views known!
     
    #17798 Kirky, Nov 26, 2018
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  19. revoking article fifty doesn't mean they trying to cancel ass hat, as well you know, it means the Parliament/gov can have the power to stop the clock.
     
  20. Whose cancelling article 50?

    The ecj is being asked, as I've said many times mr goldfish memory :joy: a technical question, effectively as we have also covered before, it has a few choices

    1 No The U.K cannot stop article 50 (there is no process within article 50 to stop article 50)
    2 Yes they can stop article 50 but only with agreement with the other 27 and commission
    3 Yes they can cancel it and without the 27 and commission

    As has been said to you before and many times, this is seeking a clarity on a technical question is a waste of money as the U.K. government has said it will not be stopping brexit anyway as we leave next march.

    It is a technical question like so many that will have no impact other than to clarify but not enforce

    Next weeks attempt to stop brexit, should rhubarb be considered as human and should it have had a vote?
     
    #17800 noobie, Nov 26, 2018
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