yip, its inevitable, sooner or later, if we are lucky enough, we all get to an age where we can piss and shit ourselves all over again.
Not quite, the issue is (1) The Bank of England more than any other government body has always stood on being independent of any party, That has changed since Carney took over (2) He has told of the dukey scenario of the worlds end as the worst, but has not and seems unwilling to say of the best or more likely outcome. If the information he is supposed to give is all options but he only gives one that favours the government of the day, then he has lost the independence of the role, and the independence that is required for the role. I see another government minister has resigned https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...imah-resigns-protest-theresa-mays-withdrawal/
pretty sure he didn't predict the worlds end. i think he just suggested that maybe with an economy that depends on growth to pay its spiraling debts maybe it wouldn't be such a good idea to shrink the economy. just his humble opinion.
He's supposed to give all options fin with all consequences and not just the one the government tells him. The role loses the independence that it has always required and that is part of his problem, the role has lost the independence it demands. More than any other Governor of Bank of England before, Carney has undermined the independence of the role.
Fair enough Carney has stated what he thinks might happen. Be good to hear someone in such a position telling us what we should be doing to ensure the uk does well after leaving the EU.
so you say. but i dont trust your opinion.. or your sources. i can only rate him on what he has done before, he was fair in 2014 on an issue with far bigger implications for the rUK Gov and its treasury. just v,often miss and selectively quoted.
I'm not asking you to trust my opinion fin. So far he has used projections of upto 17 years away, house prices dropping by upto 30%, gpd drops unheard of etc when mentioning no deal. He has NOT given the best outputs of no deal which as with any prediction, you would expect him to list the options then one by one give the best and worst predictions, he hasn't. That cannot be seen as maintaining the independence of the role
a really talented tin hatter could say, he is preparing you for the worst, so everything looks rosier than predicted. anyhoo. heard it all before, i remember the laughter and cries of conspiracy theorists from the UK ok'rs just a few a few short years ago. then corbin was elected. and labour voters fell silent. then brexit was won, then brexiteers fell silent. save it for somebody that gives a ferk. loony.
Someone spent some money saying they other side lies and we don't. We've already seen when some claim things such as 58% of the population now want a second vote but when you look at it, it's 58% of 1,200 sky viewers as just one example. They continued the lie that to ask for controlled immigration means you must be a racist so your point of view doesn't count if you are concerned about it. The video is pretty academic now as the vote has been had and the decision given. Looking for reasons is rather moot now.
That's the misunderstanding, he said it was the worst case scenario, not what he thinks will happen ,if his possibilities are the very worst that COULD happen , then I'm still going for a no deal.
Mogg first, I think he knows the recent flexing of erg muscle was poorly timed and he got a bit carried away and it backfired. They had a 24 hour window to use and failed to use it so should have gone all in or left it, instead it petered out. A far better time would have been on the 11th after she looses the vote but they will now be weary of making the same mistake. Most seem to accept her deal/proposal will fail. I believe the eu when they say there is no more as some within the eu thought the U.K. had been given too much and to them, the project, not the countries, is what matters. Labour do not want the deal because if there is an election and they win, they also know they will by hog tied to the eu calling the shots for years to come too. In sheer black and white, those that know how the eu operate, always knew a clean break was the only way to stop the eu having fingers in our pies and our future. This gives free trade/wto as the only option that gives a clean break Accepting mays deal leaves us fucked as a nation that wants a future as a nation The Norway option, even the Norwegian government has said it will not suit the brits or meet the wish of the vote. So I think it will go to a vote, may will lose, they will try some tomfoolery and the eu might suggest some extension but their venom with the negotiations will see the U.K. go to wto/free trade Much has been made of the economic situation, it is almost a smoke screen, Economies go up and down all the time, brexit or not. The nation simply said by a democratic majority, one of it's largest, we would like to run things for ourselves whilst operating on a global basis. It's not too much to ask
This is what he told radio 4. ( Mr Carney dismissed the claims, saying the Bank did not think its worst case scenario was the most likely outcome but that it had a duty to consider all possible eventualities. He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "There is an expectation that we're doing our job and part of this is communicating that if you're ready for what we just laid out, this worst case scenario, then you're certainly ready for what's much more likely to happen." )
I did a poll, and 90% of the people I asked, that voted remain first time, said they would vote leave in a second referendum.
Which sounds sensible to me. Prepare for the worst type thing. Just seems that in general the media are translating it to this is how bad it will be. I have stopped listening to the radio, I have a one hour drive to work and if I leave the radio on it drives me mad.
