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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. They should STOP bickering on, STOP all this negitive talk, and get us out and away from the EU twats, thats what we voted for, no matter what happens the world will still keep on turning, the government will keep on screwing us over, and we can trade with the rest of the world, along with the little middle bit called the 'eu', and so what if we have to get visa's for our holidays, WE DO IT NOW ANY WAY,
     
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  2. It's funny how those that lost, chose to set and create this "the old ones sold out our future" scenario of setting young versus old for political opportunism.

    You saw the "poor old johnny was 16 when the vote happened but now he's 18 he has a right to vote as it will effect him the longest" opportunists.the same people who stirred up this argument did not care it turned age against age or that by using this argument that it allows the situation of neverendums.

    Now Johnny is 18 and could vote if there was a second referendum, poor old Jamila (Representative demographicly aware :D) poor old Jamila is only 16 and cannot vote, should we now wait another 2 years for her to reach 18 and then what about Tarquin who is only 14?

    It was always a stupid argument by desperate people who once again would rather find a way to turn people against people with a nonsense excuse that never had an end, just to stop a democratic vote result from being implemented

    The other point "We should have another vote as leavers didn't know what they voted for" As mentioned in the other thread, there isn't a cat in hells chance remainers could have known when they voted that the eu would be in the state it is now. Leavers on the other hand did a bit more digging on leaving than most remainers who voted "to leave it as it is"

    Whilst being keen on this kind of stuff, most elections have people going to the polls knowing the bare minimum of what the future brings. An awful lot know very little as they still vote along party lines, so ask very little because they trust their party they align with to deal with things in a similar way they would.

    This has been the way of politics for decades and now the losers, again, demand that unless every opposition voter must know every twist and turn of change whilst their view point of "I like it the way it is" is seen as sufficient. silly numpties
     
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  3. I would hold off voting on anything, Bs &Gs.

    Just heard on the wireless that the heads of the UK Armed Forces - Army, RAF and RN - are all being replaced. Plus a new General has been promoted with some vaguely defined CoS duties.

    In a great number of countries around the World, I would know exactly what this means. In the UK though ...?
     
  4. See dave has said the world is ending so no need for brexit.

    Another reason for having to work until I'm 70
     
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  5. I think people felt begrudge as the under 60 vote would have kept us in the EU and the over 60 (baby boomer) vote took us out.

    Clearly no demographic should have a stronger vote, but there is some irony in that the majority of people who will live through post Brexit UK will have voted to remain.
     
  6. With age USUALLY comes wisdom... I really wouldn't trust anyone in their teens to really know what they're doing when making big decisions. Most teens are still busy making bad decisions and poor financial moves.
     
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  7. The leave/remain balance seems to swing at 50, with a larger proportion the further you go in each direction.
     
  8. Youngsters have been through the education system which promotes the EU. Cant blame them, brainwashed
     
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  9. This is bordering on the edge of promoting the age versus age as it confuses the vote deliberatly.

    1 person 1 vote is what is important. It shouldn't matter by age, race, religion or gender.

    What the age issue does is show some, mostly the remain side who lost, see's division as more important to justify the "bwah we lost mum i want another go", than we all took a gamble as with all votes that only one side will win, we lost, lets move on.

    if we were to promote an age argument it could be when some accused leavers didn't know what they voted for, the retort could be, we have lived under eu rules for far longer and have more experience of it my dear younglings so are better informed on our choice.
     
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  10. I just pointed out the facts, I don’t see how looking at the voting demographic is confusing the vote, unless you’re old and easily confused :D

    My original point was that the age debate was not about people who couldn’t vote (as you suggested) but people who did vote.

    Personally I voted remain as the lesser of two evils. I’m definitely not a fan of another referendum, particularly one that has options based on a deal criteria. With circa 1% of the last vote coming back as invalid god knows how the public will cope with such a complex box ticking process...
     
  11. Sadly, and many articles support this, the majority of 18-24 did most of their brexit protesting on the internet and not in the ballot box. I recall last time looking, some time ago, it showed only around 36% of those registered to vote in the 18-24 age group on brexit, did vote.
     
  12. Kate McCann????

    :astonished::astonished:

    No wonder the whole thing is full of lies and half truths. :D
     
  13. I agree from a GE perspective both those sides are a true reflection, but the referendum was a far broader spectrum from my experience. It does make me laugh that young Corbyn loving idealists completely ignore the fact he’s clearly a Brexiteer.
     
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  14. Can we have a referendum thread please,

    I just want to know when is the next referendum.
     
  15. until they vote or are old enough to vote your "FACTS" are jut as much a pie in the sky as those that said the world would end if we voted to leave....next you'll be forecasting its going to rat shit over the next 15 years....oh hang on you've been beaten to that!
     
  16. I think you should re read my posts :rolleyes: I’ve just pointed out the FACT that more people under 50 voted to remain, how hard is that to understand?

    The economic outlook is not actually that bad, 0.5% shrink in GDP every year over 15 years is the worst possible case. Could be worse.
     
  17. Political research demonstrates that the more fearful a voter is the more likely they are to support right-wing policies and to sacrifice freedoms for increased perceptions of safety.
    it seems the old scare easy, i think their vote should be removed once you draw yer state pension.
     
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  18. Its good to see.
    Travelled back up through France today and waiting to set sail from Dieppe. Protesters on several roundabouts on my travel. Zero issues and no hold up.
    Tbh, so far I have observed the people really pull together, its good to see.

    Paris, looks like the usual culprits kicked off...not real yellow vests protesters. I have seen the police in several locations over the last few weeks alongside the protestors and there have just not been any issues.
    Looks like capitalism is in for some serious scrutiny..
     
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