Probably hiding something, but I have no idea what. From what I understand listening to the news it won’t change anything though ? So would we ever know
one that an english nationalist wants to hear? ok from 3,42 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=231&v=SKYT6Sj-eCQ
Because it is a technical question that the U.K. government is under no obligation other than to acknowledge the decision, the eu saying through it's court hell yeah you can stop it if you want won't be that surprising. There were a few caveats. He specificialy mentioned negotiations, in that you cannot launch article 50 to re-negotiate your terms of entering the eu, then withdraw article 50 after you have the goodies. This would be seen as a continual blackmailing of the eu and other members and could be done on a regular basis and this would not be allowed. Funny enough, the eu themselves wanted the case stopped also but only for just this part, not for the abuse of democracy of overuling a democratic vote, go figure.
either way, its still the diet of pish your fed on. their message, again, is all over this forum. a message that couldnt be further from the truth. but hay, forigners
Of course it’s not simple. People voted for many reasons. Some for idealistic ideas of going solo, as our talent is swamped and trampled while remaining in the band. Some for nostalgic jingoism, some to protest against Cameron’s austerity, as Cameron was backing remain. Some who believed they would be voting for 350 million more for the NHS, some who didn’t like the level of immigration and Merkel's alleged invitation to allcomers. The Norway model was being touted, the Swiss model was being touted. Btw, did you realise Switzerland voted to sever its ties with the EU but the Swiss government decided it would be so disastrous they didn’t implement it? Of course Brexit isn’t all about NI but NI is the sticking point in negotiations and for good reason. IRA stands for Irish Republican Army and that army declared war on the UK in the form of a huge bombing campaign. They bombed Colditz war hero Airey Neave in the Houses of Parliament, they bombed Lord Louis Mountbatten on a boat off the Irish coast. They bombed Margaret Thatcher and her ministers in a hotel in Brighton. They also bombed scores of ordinary citizens from London to Birmingham to Warrington and that’s without the atrocities perpetrated on the islsnd of Ireland itself. To suggest it won’t flare up again is serious ostrich emulation. I saw a brief interview with a NI catholic youth a few weeks ago. This lad had been brought up since the GFA and had previously given little thought to the fact there was theoretically a border in place and was just getting on with being a teenager. However, the talk of reinstating a border was beginning to make him politically aware and conscious of the fact that he was a member of a catholic minority on an island with a catholic majority. It was obvious he would be an easy recruit for the cause. Ignore the GFA at your peril.
Totally disagree. The underlying causes for tension are still there. It will only take a bit of stirring up from fundamentalists on both sides for it all to flare up again
That would seem to admit that since the agreement, that there has always been troubles even whilst we are in the eu, so it has made no difference at all , which was my point. Don't say a brexit would cause violence when there is no proof of that and then at the same time say they have been festering whilst in the eu, they seem to contradict each other. I saw a brief interview with a NI catholic youth a few weeks ago. This lad had been brought up since the GFA and had previously given little thought to the fact there was theoretically a border in place and was just getting on with being a teenager. However, the talk of reinstating a border was beginning to make him politically aware and conscious of the fact that he was a member of a catholic minority on an island with a catholic majority. It was obvious he would be an easy recruit for the cause. It would seem then, that despite all sides saying their will be no old border of old, the remain side want to stoke ghosts of the past even to a point of scaring the next generation. Shame on them.
truth is, you took part in a democratic vote as you have probably done before knowing only one side could win. Since then you have probably been predicting the end of the world in Ireland where there is non and trying desperatley to evoke ghosts of the past just in the hope you can frighten people and for what? It would seem you have not taken this seriously.
It's all moot now anyway. Some legal bod has opined that the UK can unilaterally withdraw Art50 and there looks to be little push-back from the EU. Folks, it was all a bad dream. We are saved, from ourselves and from the outmoded and illegitimate nation state model of government and self-determination. I never like democracy anyway - they'll let any feckin' eedjeet vote.
Fin you maybe in tune more with europe as most snp supporters are. That maybe because the snp government asked the Scottish nation to have their voices listened too and have an independence vote. When the Scottish people said we want to stay, the snp government have sought to overturn the Scottish voice ever since by continually overturning it with a second vote. It's hardly surprising you would support overturning democratic votes
hmm, did you write paul nuttles speaches?. no they didnt. EVEL, Smith, the 2016 scotland act and brexit. theres your timeline, those are the reasons people are instructing their leaders to look again. suck it up.
