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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. if you use the level of insult to be found in breitbart or guido as a reference point, then no, its no insult.
    dude, you've changed
     
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  2. LOL. Dude, sit down.

    You have no clue what's going on outside of that little game of Monopoly you got going on.

    In an event, I never give you insults, ever. Just constructive observations based upon reality : o D
     
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  3. Any link on oil and gas fin, only I'm looking at their website and cannot find what you claim?

    But before you do, I feel you missed the point of the reference, jc was asking for facts and figures, I pointed out that in most cases they are little more than projections BUT we could get facts and figures from our history rather than vague forward predictions.

    In every drop in fortunes, the U.K. being the 5th largest economy, has rebuilt and then some, so a short term pain in rebuilding, historically and by past facts, has proven this to be true and worthwile
     
    #18923 noobie, Dec 7, 2018
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  4. I don’t read / listen to either. Although I’d have plenty of time to. I’ve “worked” for 8 hrs this week and manage just fine.

    And that’s a busy week.

    It’s the quality that counts. ;-).
     
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  5. Calm down, Grumpy Jowls, don't be so disagreeable. Always with the Disagree button. Disagreeable.

    Strewth, you hate getting dosed with reality, dontcha? : o D
     
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  6. man, briebart and guido is really ferking with your head.
     
    #18926 finm, Dec 7, 2018
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  7. Erm, wasn't an insult was it, I mean, really :thinkingface:
     
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  8. Surely this is wrong.....shouldnt it be on the back of a fag packet?[/QUOTE]
    It's all we had in our 'Swedish Companies' office this morning I'm afraid :worried:
     
  9. say it noob, be honest noob, just this once. you dont know do you.
    try a lil harder on the oil price.
     
  10. bwaaa
    :D
     
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  11. I don't know willis, I think you're wrong on that figure as it misses so many variables as to cost, decommissioning, equipment hire or own staffing, support etc etc, none of this is offered by you fin and that is why I politely asked, after checking the company/organisation you said it came from and it was not visable on their website, do you have the link to the item you put forward?
     

  12. Here you go... :blush:


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    Very funny. Very good (I mean this sincerely) I genuinely see your point. I think. Whatever it is.

    From a trade point of view, I can’t see it adding up that way - the nearest trade partner becoming poorer can’t be good. The dynamic of European trade changing

    And how long will the balance take (assuming the dynamic doesn’t destroy it) - it could be years and years. The country financially is already on its arse.

    And then under the umbrella of the quality of UK government at the reins of trade, the (almost?) impossibilities of leaving given Ireland, how treaties in general work (they govern everything between civilised nations).

    It’s a shit show.
     
  13. The eu have done a good show of position of strength but that wasn't difficult to do given our dropping the trouers, bending over the table and have your feat approach( I do have a suspicion why she is as she is now so late in the game) but something that the eu have undersold is the eu and the U.K. will take a hit and rebuild, I'm not so sure of the ROI if it goes to wto/free trade, the eu are playing fast and loose with the ROI.

    Most of what they export and imports, goes through the U.K. now if there was ever to be a wall in the Irish sea, this would be the one the roi will be worried about
     
  14. all factored in including their share of decomoissioning, which aint that high as the uk elites manadged to negotiate a deal where they make quite literaly bazillions but the UK Gov pays much of the decommisiong costs. all done in the national interest of course.
     
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  15. Then supplying the link to show that point you referred to shouldn't be hard should it? Please tell me it wasn't another wings over sumerzet jobie again?
     
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  16. Lifting costs per barrel being quoted by Finm are correct, albeit averaged. Oil majors are now extracting oil in the teens of dollars per barrel from North Sea as opposed to nearer $40/bbl back in the days of $100 oil. Lifting costs include staff, hire and variable costs, decommissioning costs are held in trust for the future.
     
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  17. Isn't that the time traditionally, when the people ask for change, normally through democratic votes?

    I don't agree it's on its arse by the way as generally it's the same money moving around just how it's being managed. From labours emptying the pot and the over extension of austerity time period by the tories.

    I do chuckle regularly when I hear though, but the growth is down whilst the same time the person conveniently forgets it is still growth and no growth has ever only gone upwards whilst never facing a slowing of growth or a loss of growth
     
  18. So do you have the link to those figures for context that fin seems unwilling to share?

    also that last bit, isn't that like saying my credit card repayments monthly are $15 a month but I have billions in debt in a seperate folder waiting to be enacted, that hides the true cost surely?
     
  19. Even Noobie now admits wrecks it will make us poorer. Although he maintains/promises/hopes/has faith that it will come right eventually.
     
  20. Not a link as I have insider info... The major company I sell myself to crow about it internally - benefit of downsizing since 2014 resulted in lifting cost down to teens of dollars in 2017. Tax being paid on oil profits is now positive as opposed to near zero in ~ 2015
     
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