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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Irrelevant. Or do you believe that Mat won't sign the UN Migration Compact?

    Or that when craven Remainders engineer the UK's rejoining of the EU at some point, joining Schengen won't be a condition that they will fall over themselves to accept?
     
  2. No negotiations then?
    They wrote, she signed it.
    What has she been doing for the last two years?
    Not looking after the police force and the NHS, that’s for sure
     
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  3. Nah, it was the possibility of being better off, isolated and trying to trade under WTO rules I was wishing for, hopelessly...
     
  4. Brits mention , erm the immigation is getting a bit of a concern, we need to do something to bring back controlled migration
    Liberals shout..you're all fecking racist xenophobes
    eu dumps their own agreements on open borders and put fences, barriers and barbed wire up
    and the same liberals say..the lovely eu listen to us
     
  5. The past two years have been setting the stage for Treasona May's "Deal". Pure theatre.

    Where we are now is where the globalists wanted us to be the minute the referendum result was known. Or do you believe that May has been "negotiating upon our behalf" all this time?
     
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  6. I expect the Working Time Directive willbe one of the first elements of EU Law tobe abolished on our way to low tax, sweatshop Britain
     
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  7. Right, pub for me, laters o_O
     
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  8. God knows, I’m no fan.
     
  9. i believe your worries have turned in to paranoia loz.
     
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  10. We already had all the power we needed to deport people.

    EU citizens could be deported if they went three months with out a job.

    Non EU citizens we could do what we liked with
     
  11. In France Macron is trying to remove it, in the Uk it's likely to stay the same, a protection in law but most workers themselves sign the opt out so they can continue to do overtime when and if they want
     
  12. You believe *a lot* of wild stuff, finderman : o D
     
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  13. you can add the hollowing out of the mitigating units to the list as well. (devolved Governments)
     
  14. Yeah. We could also pay for finding "errant EU citizens", housing them securely and dealing with their appeals. Terrific.
     
  15. Ah, now this is serious.

    I wonder whether Pagham Parish Council is aware of this?
     
  16. What happens now when / if the French rip up letouqet and out the broblem at the south coast?

    The EU recognises it as a problem - hence pumping money into Greece etc, varying suspensions of Schengen.

    Germany / Poland / Austria are in a difficult policical & policy place re: asylum - For obvious reasons.

    Why would it ever be desirable for the UK to join Schengen. Under any circumstance?

    Why leave in the first place to rejoin on worse terms?

    Just as a point of logic:

    So, Schengen is a problem because when Britain leaves the EU, Britain will later re-join the EU and rejoin Schengen. So vote to leave the EU now?

    Seems a strange logic.

    Also, despite the UK not being in Shenzhen, europe’s four principles of freedom are upheld with border checks.
     
  17. probably not. i don't think they are the most power devolved gov in the entire universe. but you should give em more credit then you do. they dont get to make up the pish you guys crave, but they will have to implement it. or mitigate it.
     
  18. It is strange logic, absolutely. But it is real.

    Consider. Every effort will be made to re-integrate the UK into the EU. The one thing that has a chance, the only thing, of preventing re-integration, is leaving under WTO, a no strings Brexit. Any deal that the EU will accept will be one that disadvantages the UK to such a great degree, the UK will eventually be forced to the realisation that they are better off a full EU member than a ghost-at-the-feast or a vassal state. This isn't "punishment", this isn't economic wheeler-dealing, this is strategy. The strategy that the EU cares about is not trade, or harmonisation or any of that stuff. It is integration of all Europe into a Superstate. Everything the EU does is to persuade, cajole or bully members states further and further down that road. This is not fantasy, nor is it conspiracy, this is confirmed in snatches of speeches from members of the EU Commission over the years. If the EU themselves are saying this, it is not a conspiracy theory!

    If the UK leaves the EU - even if it's in name only (BrINO) - every effort will be made to drag us back but the goal will be to make us beg to come back. If we beg, there will be conditions - some form of Schengen is one likely condition I foresee. The only defence against this would be Brexit under WTO - no strings and we win or lose on our own terms. I believe we will win.

    Why leave, in the first place? We voted to leave, remember? Will we be allowed, by our treacherous UK government, to leave cleanly? Maybe. WTO means we leave clean, some species of May Deal means we don't really leave and we don't really stay but rather, we remain in some form of Limbo where, if May gets her way, we can only escape by rejoining the EU (and it won't be on comparable terms to what we have now).
     
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  19. They do have a bird sanctuary in their remit, too.

    You're right, Pagham is the one devolved government in the UK I should definitely not sneer at. Thanks!
     
  20. yip, with an economy worth over a trillion pounds and another trillion lying under the sea, with 20% of the land owned by just a small handful of powerful people contributing a whopping 2.6million pounds :rolleyes: to the economy under threat from a land reform bill.
    i just cant figure out what it is there trying to hang on to down your way...
     
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