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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Worth a listen
     
  2. And the south coast industry. Many people will be unaware that under EU rules French boats can fish within 6 miles of the British coast but British boats cannot fish within 12 miles of the French coast. 70% of the French fleet are small inshore vessels but the 30% which comprise the big high tech off shore boats account for 80% of the French national catch and a lot of that is taken from British waters.
    On the south coast French and Belgian boats have been practising wreck netting on wrecks inside UK waters for years. Our southern shore is littered with wrecks. A dive boat skipper I know in Weymouth has over 600 wreck sites entered on his plotter reachable from his home port alone. These sites should teem with marine life but many of them have been severely damaged by EU commercial wreck netting depleting fish stocks and destroying important nursery habitats. Also divers will tell you many of the larger wrecks are festooned in lost gear which continue to "ghost fish" for years to come, wastefully trapping and killing fish and other species which are never landed.
    Presumably these boats operate around the Welsh and Scottish coasts as well.
    The French fishing industry has bewailed Brexit saying it could put their offshore fleet out of business. Good. That's the idea mes amis.
     
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  3. I didn't know that. Thanks
     
  4. Thousands of years :Wideyed:
     
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  5. Hundreds :rage:
     
  6. What and who had he lead?
     
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  7. jeezus, don't get me started on Bozza :)

    I honestly do think May is the right appointment, and things were going well until Boris was wheeled out as Foreign Secretary.

    I know he's a very intelligent man with a high iq, but he would really need to sharpen up doing this job otherwise I can't see him lasting 3 months.

    Maybe it's what he needs to prove he can do serious political work?

    Who knows...
     
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  8. The appointment of Boris as foreign secretary is a clever and cynical political move to nullify him and his populist following. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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  9. and expendable
     
  10. I understand the need to nullify him to a degree, but surely putting him as Foreign Secretary is a little extreme and risky?

    Any cock up he makes will look bad on the pm, surely she'd have been better giving him a role less involved with the rest of the world, or nothing at all .

    Given all foreign relations and negotiations will be more important than ever in the coming months / years, I'd have thought a safer pair of hands would have been a better idea
     
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  11. Oh so she's hoping he messes up to fire him?
     
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  12. It's a case of "he's caused this mess so let him clean it up". And if he does a good job then all well and good.

    But if and when he fucks that up (which he will) he gets the bullet and he's back in the political wilderness being the buffoon he is and will always be.

    She's a shrewd cookie this mother Theresa bird.
     
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  13. what El T said
    with boris i could go ether way. he is v.likable. but? his timing is terrible, commissiond during indi1
    one of many
    The Scottish - what a verminous race!

    Canny, pushy, chippy, they're all over the place.

    Battening off us with false bonhomie;

    Polluting our stock, undermining our economy.

    Down with sandy hair and knobbly knees!

    Suppress the tartan dwarves and the Wee Frees!

    Ban the kilt, the skean-dhu and the sporran

    As provocatively, offensively foreign!

    It's time Hadrian's Wall was refortified

    To pen them in a ghetto on the other side.

    I would go further. The nation

    Deserves not merely isolation

    But comprehensive extermination.

    We must not flinch from a solution.

    (I await legal prosecution.)
     
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  14. i would love to deal with him, have him as a customer, the craic would be excellent. but if thinks he wouldn't get a bit of attitude tax added to his bill then he really aint as bright as he thinks.
     
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  15. I don't have any qualms about Boris as Foreign Secretary. He's probably one of the most internationalist and the most internationally recognisable of his generation of politicians. He speaks at least five languages, he is of Turkish extraction himself and he proved himself adept at friendly diplomacy in the run up to the Olympics as well as being a proven administrator in one of the worlds's most cosmopolitan cities.
    He is pilloried less for his buffoonery than for of his support for Brexit, but guess what - the world is bigger than the EU, and while a few European leaders and a lot of UK Remainers are the sort of people who will always feel betrayed and threatened by anyone who holds different views to their own, there are plenty of other people on the planet who are more open-minded and will welcome a UK that has returned to the global community and a Foreign Office lead by someone who supports that stance, not least the Commonwealth nations who have been lining up to say welcome back Britain, we've missed you.

    The PM may have put Boris in the FO to neutralise his Prime Ministerial ambitions - which I think had more to do with his rivalry with Cameron, which is now null and void - but I doubt she is calculating he will trip himself up in spectacular fashion. She doesn't strike me as the sort of person who would play such adolescent games with the great Offices of state.
    I'm more concerned by the appointment of Philip Hammond as Chancellor who I think is too political an appointment. We've had enough political Chancellors in recent years, we don't need any more. Disappointed too not to see a return of Owen Paterson to agriculture.
     
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  16. They all play games. The last thing they do is think about the proletariat. It's all about personal power and wealth.

    I think you need to take a reality pill.
     
  17. El T, Polatics, it's a minefield, don't get involved. This democracy thing, not for you :Finger:



    :Angelic::smileys::)
     
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  18. I don't believe they do. And there is no proletariat. Names, labels and outdated social categorisation. Move on.
     
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