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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. Nope I simply pointed out to you that the Good Friday agreement is an agreement between the U.K. and the ROi, it is, and no one else. You insisted it was with the eu, I asked you to show eu signatures or recognition as being signatories of the GFA and to date, you still haven't.

    You can try and wiggle as much as you want, but the eu is not and has never been party to the gfa
     
  2. The Treaty allows them to suspend. There is no cop out.

    The reason they keep having to apply you fucking goon is because the treaty is one for open border.

    If a nation were allowed to apply for suspension indefinitely it would just do so any time it fancied.

    It had no idea that western forces were going to go whooping and hollering through the Middle East / causing massive asylum.

    This suspensive conditions a temporary in order desigbed that nobody abuses the system of suspension. Every nation that signed up to it wanted an open border.

    Else they wouldn’t have fucking signed up to it. Britain didn’t so did not.

    The Fucking agreement has never been done before nor tried before.

    If Schengen does not work, then at the next convention I’m sure it will be up for discussion and if a 27 member states agree to reform then it will and EU law will change.
     
  3. Bit rude :bucktooth: are you in a corner :yum
     
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  4. You can’t be this thick. You just cannot be this fucking thick. You just fucking can’t be.
     
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  5. :thinkingface:
     
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  6. Read what I’ve said and make your own mind up. If you’re that bothered, look at the Schengen agreement and the Treaty of Amsterdam yourself as to whether or not the EU drops it’s own law.


    I’ve been at it with him for days. He’s like a comedy sketch.

    A number of days ago he was proposing protecting borders with the Dartford Tunnel camera system.

    Now he’s misunderstanding the Schengen Agreement.
     
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  7. You seem to forget that countries can do anything they want. Literally, anything.

    There may be consequences but ... anything they want.

    If Eire and UK&NI decide that the GFA is to be "reinterepreted", that's what will happen.

    Treaties are in operation, until superseded. If the UK actually does Brexit, the folks on that benighted island will decide whether they want to keep the peace in the new reality, or slip back into their desperate love-of-murder ways.

    The Agreement will be reinterpreted or abandoned. My bet is on the former.
     
  8. You are the one claiming legal intricacies and agreements, I simply asked, where on the good friday agreement, is there a eu signature given the agreement is between the U.K. and Irish governments, who ARE signaturies.

    You cannot provide a legal agreement which shows the eu on the GFA. I get that you have failed using your own legal standards

    Let's be honest, if there was one, you would have shown it by now :D
     
  9. Yes. and it has to be so before Brexit.

    GFA is the basis upon which both Ireland and the UK relinquishes it’s claims over NI. And 1 million other things beside.

    The Good Friday agreement says the satus of the agreement can only change with the agreement of the people of the Island of Ireland.

    And so that need to change first.
     
  10. And then he repeats it!!!!!!!!

    You are a comedy sketch. Your avatar has become completely clear to me. I blame myself. I should’ve known.
     
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  11. Eire had said there will be no need for a hard border, as has the UK.

    There's been a border they for many years - a VAT border, an income tax border. A customs border arrangement can be worked out, if there's a will, and in order to avoid bloodshed amongst recidivist elements of the population, there will be a will.
     
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  12. show me where there is a eu signature on the good friday agreement? was it written in invisible ink?

    The agreement can be changed, ammended and updated IF the two signaturies agree or it can be left as it is.

    No one has to appease the eu because they are not party to that agreement.

    I think I know what's happened here JC, in one of them half read 9 books, in one of their unread halfs is the bit where it says, no jc, the eu were never signatories to the good friday agreement. Have a look chap, you'll feel better
     
  13. Is Finm in that particular corner too …………. :eyes:
     
  14. It’s implicit within the agreement that there can be no border. If a customs arrangement can be worked out then, Theresa May for one, when put under pressure by the select committee has never been able to give anything like an answer.

    Theresa May would wreck her party for ever if she sat on an agreement for Ireland that she knew would work yet plead ignorance and used it as a way to not achieve Brexit.

    It’s only because of this, that I think there might be a glimmer, that she is bluffing and will go back to Europe with the gun in her mouth.
     
  15. #19195 finm, Dec 8, 2018
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  16. No mate, Noobie’s In it all on his fucking own.
     
  17. I like you all so I'm a lil confused how you can possibly fall out, I blame the EU Brussels wankers, they did it to you :mad:
     
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  18. May is completely tied up with the strategy for ensuring the UK remains, effectively remains or returns to the EU.

    She has spared neither time nor effort searching for proper solutions to true Brexit issues. Brexit isn't even on her radar.

    You do realise this, right?
     
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  19. Yes I do :innocent:
     
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  20. the brexit some called for, yes. its over.
     
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