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British Indy: What Happens Now?

Discussion in 'Wasteland' started by Loz, May 23, 2015.

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  1. Full Brexit with "no EU deal" on the 29th March.

  2. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a general election and new negotiations.

  3. Request Extension to article 50 to allow cross party talks and a new deal to be put to EU.

  4. Request Extension to article 50 to allow a second referendum on 1. Remain in EU or 2. Full Brexit.

  5. Table a motion in parliament to Remain in EU WITHOUT a referendum.

  6. I don't know or I don't care anymore

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  1. No need to apologise.

    In one of my early jobs I worked hard, worked my way up and am set up from when I fully retire. That cost me my first marriage and I have since refused to ever do such a job again and have taken jobs below the living wage, above the living wage and an average wage.

    Being single allows me a journey man approach but again only through avoiding credit and debt apart from a mortgage once. I have one emergency credit card but a self imposed limit of £400. I left home at 16 and learned a hard lesson, if it's not in your pocket, you can't afford it. I've never owned my own company.
     
  2. mp's can be elected with a difference of just two votes and have been in the current parliament. There is no second place that is first place
     
  3. Must be confusing you with someone else then
     
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  4. Or, the U.K. is taking the lead in revealing just how fragile democracies are and I suspect by the far right increases in europe and the rise in far right in their state and national governments shows the eu is not listening.

    If you only see bad in brexit, then that is probably what you see in everything. Brexit could be a clean slate and for the next generation to clarify the future
     
  5. A 3.6% margin is not “clear and precise.”
    If you were to cut a cake in two, with a 3.6% difference, I would be very surprised if you tell one from the other - they would appear to be two equal halves.
     
  6. If only...
     
  7. You are forgetting the millions of people who never voted who were happy to accept the outcome - the majority was massive :blush:
     
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  8. You could just as easily interpret their lack of voting as being happy with the status quo.
     
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  9. 1 bottle beer 2 glasses. 48% goes in one, 52% in the other = the evening goes well because there isn't much difference. 70% goes into one glass and 30% in the other and we'd be having words if you handed me the 30%.

    1 elected individual to parliament having won by 2 votes is fine as they are part of a wider parliament where consensus is reached (normally), a dictatorship with only a slim majority support results in civil war and unrest.
     
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  10. Absolutely it was clear and precise. Leave really isn't a hard word to understand.

    This is exactly the same majority vote procedure we used before brexit and will use again at the next local, council, county councillors, mp's and governments after brexit.

    So it isn't the procedure or how it works that is at fault as we were relatively happy before and will be happy with it to continue. it is the simple fact that the remain side lost and have sought to overturn the majority vote.
     
  11. Next time we vote on beer leaving a bottle, I shall seek your advice sir :D

    It looks like on that front, mp's will trust the people to know enough to take note on a democratic vote of 2 when it gives them a job, but will ignore a democratic majority by the people of 1.3 million, by saying the people don't know what they are voting for.
     
  12. Again, a marginal vote for an MP or councillor does not leave those who didn’t vote for them disenfranchised because when elected they undertake to represent the whole electorate.
    They don’t say stuff you, you didn’t vote for me.
    If we are to go ahead with the self-harming madness of brexit, the marginal nature of the vote should dictate the softest brexit possible.
    That way the country would not be so divided.
     
  13. Nobody knew.
    It was and pretty much remains an unknown quantity - not least because the quitters don’t know what they want
     
  14. From what I understand a 'soft' brexit is staying in the EU ?

    I'm not sure anything would unite the country, I can't think of anything
     
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  15. Aww cotton fluffy balls and unicorn tears

    The country is divided because the government were/are weak. When it became clear the country was so divided and there was no way there was a please all of the people, then the defining direction was the democratic vote which was a clear leave
     
  16. If no one knew what leave was, how come so many remainers have defined leave as a cliff edge leading to sodom and gomarrah?

    The quitters as you put it or as it is properly known, the majority democratic people's decision knew exactly what was wanted, it was on the ballot paper, leave the eu
     
  17. That's the trouble both sides, leading up to the referendum, were hopeless. Remain just said it's safer to stay and if you vote leave you're stupid and a racist. Leave just said we'll all be rich. Both sides were talking crap ?

    It is an unknown quantity, so it could equally be better if we leave, rather than the doom and gloom our media would have us believe.
     
  18. Either way, they were happy to leave - so huge majority - mahoooosive in fact :bucktooth:
     
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  19. You have no idea who the modern establishment is, do you?
     
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  20. LOL. Good trolls, shadow dude : o D
     
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