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Broadband And Wifi

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Arquebus, Dec 7, 2019.

  1. Many thanks to Alan Williams for sending me his Powerline adapters to try......if I can successfully configure my other router to provide the extra wifi signal I need the problem should be dealt with, although I know the adapters will have to be on different electrical circuits so...........
     
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  2. Which plug in modules do you have OR?
     
  3. Can you post the make and model of the second router, maybe a fairly easy setup if you are lucky.
     
  4. TP Link TD-W8968.

    I think I can work that one out to change the settings although I assume I would have to access the settings by disconnecting the BT Hub; connect the TP Link, mess around with settings; remove it and reconnect the BT Hub.
    Then plug the TP Link into the other adapter.

    F*** knows what I am talking about.......

    ......I have just had to hang a picture and a mirror in the bathroom........that's as much as I can do today.
     
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  5. FTTP on demand is if you pay for the install yourself - BT are pretty much willing to give that to anybody - for a cost - that could run into 5 figures easily.

    If the speed you are getting is higher than the figure they estimate for WBC ADSL2+ then your line is very clean.

    What’s the handback threshold on the FTTC (VDSL range A)?

    If the upstream rates are higher than you get currently even if the downstream rates are only a little better then it’s worth upgrading. Escpecially if the handback threshold is similar to what you have now - that way you can say it’s not good enough and they have to sort it out.

    People focus on downstream rates but if your upstream rate is slow it has an impact on your internet experience.
     
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  6. Not that I use the internet that much other than for rabbiting away on the odd motorcycle forum.......I don't use normal motorcycle forums, only the odd ones.
    Sometimes the news, sometimes online purchases, nuthin' else...........I am trying to learn how to handwrite again.
     
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  7. Let me know if you get stuck with the setup
     
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  8. FDE2554E-FB9A-477B-9A7C-EF9B51D3583F.jpeg
    Netgear Powerline AV500
    But they’re pretty old now.
     
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  9. Once you've got the hang of it, let me know. I have a spare quill or two I can send you.
     
  10. Not sure if it has been mentioned earlier but powerline extender performance can be adversely affected by the type/number of appliances plugged in/active on the circuit they are using. So speed might drop when the the washing machine, TV, oven, etc. goes on and the kettle is boiling, etc. I have used Devolo kit for years but have recently upgraded to a mesh setup as I got tired of explaining the need to check which SSID one was connected to when wandering around the house to SWMBO! BTW - the BT BB unlimited deal is hard to beat (£22/month for guaranteed 60Mbps) and even the Ultrafast Fibre (FTTC or FTTP) deals are pretty good if streaming lots of films/big files to multiple devices etc. is your thing.
     
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  11. WAP posted yesterday Al...hope it helps
     
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  12. Well, I have found out a bit more.....

    The two identical ducts running past my house are for fibre......

    Fibre is definitely in one of them and it was paid for by a local business which is at least 2.5 miles from the exchange. That was obviously an FTTP On demand job.

    330 Down and 30 Up.

    Why the second duct is there is beyond me, because Open Reach guy tells me it is empty.

    My four neighbours that are on fibre I assume are FTTC, yet the aforementioned FTTP fibre runs past their properties either overhead or underground; otherwise they would be getting better than 20mb max.

    However, one neighbour wanted for fibre for his house, so a rather large concrete manhole was constructed on his side of the road opposite another manhole on the other side of the road where the FTTP is........I wonder if that means he has been connected to it.....although his garden wasn't dug up.

    I'm waiting to find out what their speeds are and what they are paying.
     
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  13. Because digging holes is expensive and time-consuming, so placing a spare duct for futureproofing (increased unknown future demand, leasing to other operators) makes sense. That's why. :)
     
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  14. Or more likely, someone forgot to record that it had already been laid........unless, of course, the one that has fibre in it is in fact a dedicated FTTP service to the business; while the other duct has been laid, as you say, to have fibre in it for all the plebs.
     
  15. No... I just told you the right answer. :)

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    When a provider builds a business case for a dig and all the hassles (wayleave) etc that are entailed they do not want to go back to do the same job in the same place. Rural locations used to be not as bad as cities but now they can be equally hard to plan for. So if you have the correct permission it costs buttons to throw another diverse duct down.

    For business customers that require diverse points of entry into a building for availability of service reasons it is also an advantage to have point-of-entry diversity, fibre / wire diversity and duct diversity (enables true provider diversity). That's usually for something fairly mission-critical like a data-centre, and even then you would still likely throw down a spare duct on each run.

    In consumer scenarios it's more likely that Openreach would place a spare duct and then have an asset to lease to another provider, or afford duct capacity for future use.

    Business vs. consumer is typically only a matter of speed-rating / contention and the commercial SLA that is offered (in exchange for much higher price). Capacity / speed are fixed costs up to the capability of the equipment, everything else is a bet on capacity management and marketing... actual differentiation for businesses tends to be the type of diversity mentioned above.

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  16. Yes, I agree with what you say above having been in an allied industry for 40 years or more.

    But as the first duct (FTTP) was laid by John Henry Group; then five years later another contractor laid the other (empty) one; it makes a mockery of saving costs on all the wayleave permissions, road closure notices; risk assessments; extra plant and manpower; and traffic control lights etc.....

    Didn't save much did it?

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  17. That’s crazy, but as BT still seem to operate like the nationalised entity they used to be with the same lack of accountability, it’s not that surprising.

    Even though there is ducting, the barrier you may come across is that BT are not offering consumer FTTP in your area.

    So consumer pricing may not be available to you.

    You could enquire as to the cost for FTTP on demand - it would be interesting to see what they can offer.

    You may find the price more than would be economical for you to pay though.
     
  18. Depends though, if there was a certain standard of network design / build to be achieved then this could be considered corrective work in this specific case to bring up to the required level of available diversity. You'd need to scrutinise the specific business case, and I defer to your familiarity with this instance. :)
     
  19. It's Openreach now, not BT. :)

    I don't know if BT have a consumer FTTP product specifically (FTTH?), haven't looked. Infinity used to encompass a range of products labelled "fibre" that included FTTP (fibre to the premises - or FTTH being fibre to the home/house), FTTC (fibre to the cabinet) and these were somewhat opaquely referred to without giving much clue what you'd get. I know things have tightened up a bit...
     
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