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Chloe Haines Jailed For Trying To Open Stansted Plane Door Mid-flight

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by PerryL, Feb 12, 2020.

  1. From the BBC report: “Haines' barrister Oliver Saxby QC described her as "a troubled young person with a number of serious issues"

    She obviously has money as there’s no way on God’s green Earth that the Legal Aid Agency would have paid for a QC for a minor case like this*. In fact, these days you’re lucky if they’ll cough up for a silk to defend some murders!

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-51478329

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    the legal aid fee is about £155 minus expenses if she pleaded in the Mags and it was a committal for sentence from the Mags to Crown Court (most likely) or about £400 if she pleaded in the Crown Court (unlikely).
     
    #21 Zhed46, Feb 13, 2020
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  2. Interesting this newsgroup.... Someone gets p1ssed up and tries to open a cabin door and adds a bit of assault for good measure! But the discussion here is more centered around whether it is technically possible to open a cabin door at altitude! I think that I can tell why we all like Ducatis!
    "Use a simple spring to shut the valves"
    [fake Italian accent] Noah, Noah, you need a desmo system to close-a the valves! I know that it is 10 times more complicated but it is a thing of beauty!"
    "Ahh, of course! It's Italien and so it must be a thing of beauty!!!!"
     
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  3. Was she Italian :thinkingface:
     
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  4. Springs? Valve bounce, Perry!

    No one wants valve bounce at 37000 feet.
     
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  5. This is true and with higher revving engines it become more significant. But nobody else bothers.....
     
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  6. I think it’s slightly different with these in flight incidents. It seems that sometimes the combination of alcohol, the lower atmospheric pressure (IIRC cabins are pressurised but not to precisely the same lb/ft as would be experienced at sea level), the stale air and perhaps also claustrophobia and nerves triggers behaviour that’s otherwise out of character. That doesn’t seem to be the case here, she’d recently been sentenced for something similar albeit on the ground, but my guy was a mild mannered civil engineer with no previous convictions on his way from somewhere else to Scandinavia in order to do something involving an oil rig.
     
  7. Dude lb/ft is not pressure - just sayin' :p:D
     
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  8. lb/ft sq inch?
     
    #28 Zhed46, Feb 13, 2020
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  9. per square inch
     
  10. or metric equivilant
     
  11. Bar?

    Or, in Welsh units, “Baa”?
     
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  12. Endangering an aircraft is much more serious than a s.39 common assault (max sentence 6 months)

    See post #17 for what happened in a case I did and why my guy only got 4 months. Short version - I got the “Endangering an aircraft” charge kicked out.
     
  13. The Bar is a non approved unit of pressure in the SI system, the technically correct one is the Pascal. 1bar = 100,000 Pascals

    What's the difference? Well I'd rather be at the bar than suck a Pascal
     
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  14. Why can't they use ft-lbs per cubic metre? That should be simpler?
     
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  15. My post earlier was ineffective! Now, we have moved on from arguing about opening cabin doors to units of pressure!
     
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  16. This is the Ducati Forum. We would argue over whether zebras are black with white stripes, or white with black stripes.

    *argument over zebras ensues*
     
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  17. At least it's still vaguely on track..... unlike most threads..... Now what about Boris
     
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  18. Stripey horses?
    They are black with white stripes.
     
  19. Racist ;)
     
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  20. There's no argument about Boris............... :D
     
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