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Dss Sensor Location & Multiple Sensor Errors

Discussion in 'Technical Help' started by West Cork Paul, Jun 6, 2024.

  1. That’s what I suspected :(. I guess that in the factory it was fixed to the inside of the frame and then the bike built around it.

    I’m hoping above hope your comment above(post #16) holds true and once one or both of the front accelerometers are replaced the system corrects itself.

    Sadly though, the pragmatic side of me says that won’t be the case :(. As someone has been at the exhaust servo in the past I suspect the fault may lie inside the unit.
     
  2. Thanks.

    For anyone else reading this now or in the future, this is what the unit looks like. The hexagonal cam is where the exhaust valve cable attaches to, the servo motor is underneath it. The rear suspension rotary sensor is the unit underneath that with the plastic arms attached.
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  3. Did you try disconnecting the suspension?
     
  4. Yep, and then reconnected, no change :confused:
     
  5. B%gger
     
  6. The last few months I've been having a few issues coming and going intermittently. Neutral switch , dss lights and then my fuel gauge went. I thought I'd try the resistor trick but when that didn't work I thought ohoh! Using the obdstar found multiple alarms ,so started googling and came up with this thread , thanks Paul. Stripped bike down and started unplugging sensors and when I unplugged the accelerometer one on the fork leg the fuel gauge started working. I was watching this as I guessed they were all linked through the canbus? Most alarms cleared ordering new sensor tomorrow I'm glad the gauge had stopped working as this was my circuit tester ...
     
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  7. Just reread the thread and as Nelly said mine also went into preload calibration. That rotary rear sensor kept coming up as an issue before the accelerometer was unplugged too. Bugger getting at front connections as fuel tank off job.
     
  8. To finish off this thread (since it popped back up in my feed), the issue with the bike in question was a fault/short circuit within the rear suspension unit. Unfortunately these are not serviceable items so it requires the replacement of the entire rear suspension.

    There was also a fault (short circuit) within the front accelerometer fitted at the headstock too.

    The fact there was a fault in the main suspension control unit (ie the big silver cylinder under the seat and to the rear of the battery) was causing the voltage across the canbus network, which connects all the DSS components and the fuel sensor, to drop significantly enough for the BBS to be tricked into thinking all units had a short or open circuit hence the multitudinous error messages when in fact it was just 2 items that were at fault.

    How was this detected ? By back probing and measuring the voltage across the canbus circuit for these items at each item’s connector whilst systemically disconnecting one item at a time.

    BTW, the exhaust valve disconnect was a red herring. If you have a similar issue in the future just ignore the ESE.

    Finally, I’m glad the rear rotary sensor wasn’t at fault as that’s extremely difficult and time consuming to get out, swapping out the rear suspension unit in its entirety is simple by comparison, no more than 45 -60 mins (once the corrosion between the suspension mounting bolt and frame has been overcome).
     
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  9. That's what I said :joy::joy:
     
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