Exhausts

Just read on the Leo Vince site that the stock system is 100.5 dB, and the LV link pipe is 104 dB. No mention of sound levels for the end cans... No idea what the sound level is for the Termi/Mivv link pipe/BR Tuning baffle setup I have, which is why I asked the question of Finn.... ;-)

 

Sort of....Finn is....sort of. Depends on if the LV end can has any silencing of its own or not. If 'not', then it is the same/similar as running the standard or termi shorty cans...I.e. neither have much/any baffling in the end can.

 

It does, but to be honest, doesn't sound all that different from the Termi shorty/Mivv decat/BR Tuning baffle setup....except of course if you haven't bought any of that set up, then for this you only need to buy the LV decat pipe.

Anyway, I'd still be interested to hear from Finn, as he has experience of both set ups (although not sure if he had the BR Tuning baffle). What I do know, is that the Mivv link pipe and NO baffle (doesn't much matter on which end can) is way too loud! The baffle dampens the sound a little, and doesn't seem to intrude on performance, although it has been reported that Chris (who does the remapping in Bristol) reckons it does impact negatively by 20 bhp or so...maybe, but it doesn't 'feel' like it.

Anyway, what is certain, is that without the cat, the bike IS louder, whatever combination of link pipe/enchant or system you put on, but you 'gain' a huge weight loss of 6-7 Kg (LV reckon around 9 kg if I read their site correctly).

As ever, choices choices....which is a good thing. It depends on what you like the 'look' of, as much as the sound.

The key thing to remember is that as standard the baffling is in the cat, and as such, unless you want a straight through setup, you need to either get a baffle of some kind in the link pipe, or you need an end can with some baffling.

 

No....Finn says (earlier in the thread):

"I have the LV Decat and carbon can - really responsive and nice sound..
Previously had Mivv Decat with carbon Termi stubby but the noise was ultimately too loud."

I read 'responsive' to mean no fuelling issues...

Mind you, I have the Termi shorty end can/Mivv link pipe/BR Tuning baffle setup and don't have fuelling issues either. I do have Fatducs installed though, which do help with the rough low down fuelling.

 

I'll leave it to Finn to comment on how he has found the difference from his old set up to the new....from the old Ducatisti site, I can't remember if he had a BR tuning baffle or not.... I seem to have a recollection that he didn't, but he can answer that.

He can also comment on quality.

In terms of should you buy this from the US? Maybe....where is Bugs with that link to the 'cheaper' UK (?) site? (only kidding Bugs).....

Remember though, that when you import goods, you have to pay 'Import Tax' AND also VAT. I can't remember what the Import Tax is....4 or 5% I think, but don't hold me to it....so:

£279.67 + £11.19 (4%) = £290.86 .... + £58.17 (VAT on the whole lot) = £349.03 ....plus postage of £46.59 TOTAL = £395.62

That is your 'price to beat'.....

 

Ahh, now on that I CAN help....no, it doesn't affect the running or reduce fuel consumption. Not for me anyway. And I agree with your view on getting the workshop to do it. I've no experience with Ducati Glasgow, but Parkinson's in Colchester did mine, and a very good job they did too....it was fairly straightforward, but the front header pipe was a b***h to remove....

 

Well, if the UK price is £427.50 (no idea about p&p), then you 'save' maybe £31.88, depending on the exchange rate (and if the Import tax is 'only' 4%).

So yes, I'd see what Finn says, and also if Bugs finds the link to the place where he saw it cheaper. If you break even on price US vs UK, then I wouldn't bother with the hassle of importing, as it just takes longer to arrive... ;-)

 

heres a link that will work out your complete delivered goods from the US

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Also be aware that Paypal do not give you the correct dollar to £ conversion. they keep a wee bit to themselves, surprise surprise.

 

Thanks for that Brian! (Sticky) .....so it's worse I'm afraid....assuming the exchange rates are valid (you'd pay a conversion fee on your credit card anyway, and usually the rates are crap) you a looking at a 'landed cost' of £409.13

Import Duty on exhausts is 4.5%, but you also pay duty and VAT on the postage and insurance costs...ah well... So your 'price to beat' is about £409.

You're maybe saving about £18.50.

I'd wait to see what Bugs and Finn say....

In the meantime, I wonder if anyone would want a Termi stubby/Mivv decat pipe/BR Tuning baffle set up? I could then go to the stock End can with the LV link pipe...hmmmm....

 

Oh, Finn....one question.... Does the LV link pipe have the 'stopper' part to stop the centre stand? The Mivv one does....although you need to use the rubber from the original cat. Thanks.

 

Ok, a couple of final points.... LEO VINCE DECAT PIPE DUCATI MULTISTRADA 1200 2010 on | Motorcycle Exhausts | Performance Parts .... £395 from BR Tuning, so it is cheaper to get it from the UK, although you can possibly get it even cheaper...I'm not saying buy it from here per se.

They also do the end cans, and will do BOTH for £893.50....again, you may be able to get this cheaper somewhere else.

What is interesting, is that they have a schematic of the exhaust end can, and it HAS got a baffle as well....that means there are TWO baffles if you get the link pipe and the end can. One in each. The end can baffle is removable.

In this case, I'm imagining that the set up is quieter than the one I have, simply because the Termi stubby doesn't really have any baffling in it.

Finn can confirm this I hope, for both the LV end can, and the Termi stubby.

 

Here are some pix of the Spark.....I import them through my little enterprise...Solo Corse Racing....

 

Hmmm, I think there are THREE baffles in the 'system' then...

#1: In the link pipe...the bulbous looking bit which (seemingly) you can't get at.
#2: In the End can muffler at the exhaust end
#3: The 'plate' (removable) which has 5 holes in it.

From the thread on Ducati.ms, it is #3 that robbed all the power....the final set up still had whatever was in the link pipe, as well as the #2 'baffle' in the exhaust end of the muffler.

This is where we really need Finn to say what he has got, and how his system is set up....and personally for me, how it sounds compared to his previous set up (especially if he had the BR baffle).

On that, it has also been said on here, that Chris (CJS Tuning) says that the BR baffle robs power....well, I can't say as I'm not an expert, but my 'seat of the pants' experience, says not. It is much better than stock (I.e. decated). Could you make it better if you removed the baffle? Sure, but then you have a 'race' straight through system, which would be way too loud.... It's like in MotoGP when they had no baffling at all...the bikes make huge power, but are also extremely loud.

Does the BR baffle reduce power 'more than a baffle 'should', ahh, now that is a different question entirely!