I've just had the opportunity to talk to Phil. He has been doing more digging since I last spoke to him and is saddened and shocked by what he has found, as am I. It appears that David has been lying: his actions are not mistaken as he maintains, rather they are very much more serious. Given the information I now have, I'm with Phil. I cannot have anything more to do with him.
Stereotypical assumptions about people based on their skin colour is even more objectionable. Wash out your keyboard with carbolic soap.
Hi, I've not been on here for a long time, I'm saddened at the news of Nog, I thought of him as a genuinely nice, funny guy and have spent many hours in the company of him at race tracks, on a trip to Milan one year. I would like to thank Ghost on many levels x, I too have befriended him on facebook, I was upset to do so, but I'm afraid if its not the first time he has done this, then I hope he does get some help if that's whats required. Shame I thought he was a great guy.
The thing that sickens me most about cases like this is that whilst these people get caught and sentenced, the charges are made only on that what is known to have happened. These people don't just decided one day to commit the crime in isolation. They are creatures of habit.....predators. It doesn't bare thinkin about that somewhere there may be, or probably be, another/other victims who's lives have been scared by this sickening obsession that are too frightened to come forward. These people are the lowest of the low in my opinion. Rough justice would be too good for them. I'd leave them in the populous within prison and let justice be served. It's truly a measure of their standing in society when criminals consider them in the same light as the law abiding public. Sometime, somewhere, justice will creep up. Karma and today's world of transparent information will see to that I'm sure.
As one day he will be back in society castration would be a start, once thats done we can do the civilised thing of treating him
This is what I was eluding to earlier, he's been caught twice doesn't mean he's not been at it un-noticed for years. Karma has a great way of sorting this out I just hope the victims can recover and lead a normal life.
Phil, I didnt think you would post up after our conversation. Your a good man and thanks for posting up the facts. I will be deleting all the dd pics of the cadwell party later. Take care mate and see you soon Steve
Can I just add my thanks to Imola and Ghost as they appear to have more facts than I do and I'm getting the impression that things are far more serious than I had imagined and lead me to believe that I've probably had a lucky escape.
Well looking at how Ghost feels, being he is at the higher end of nice guys in my book, what I have found out and what I possibly found (can not confirm some things) I am starting to think of dropping contact. Still do not and will nit change my mind if regards of David receiving help, he should get help even if it means prison for life. Thx to all for all the info and mostly civilised conversation. Rob thx for letting it run this long. I do not agree with you closing it down being that Teacher and Jimmy S. thread stayed but fully your choice.
I would also like to thank you. I was very worried about saying what I felt. I kept calm and friendly when I was dealing with it but as soon as I was away was just filled with dread at going back and alarm bells. I wasn't harmed or threatened or anything . But I kicked myself for not digging my heels in and saying I'm not paying that or I want everything back and broken replaced.. Something stopped me and told me get your stuff keep it calm and get out. I don't know what he has done but can only guess I feel so sick. I will add this though .. If you have been a victim of something terrible it doesn't go away . You don't heal or get better. You cope... You have to cope or you fall victim again and again or you don't survive. You either try to forget ( you don't ) . Some sadly turn perpetrator themselves . Or you cope and the best way I can put it is try and take that ability to cope and carry on and help other victims or vunerable people to learn that coping strategy and survive. Sometimes you have to turn around a terrible thing so it helps you and others get through. I do not ever wish this person to darken our part of the world again. It's the lowest if the low. But thank you Jerry and Ghost for what you have just said. I'm not a victim I just lost some money lost parts and got very very stressed and upset ( I ended up collapsing as was so stressed out and Christmas was just dreadful). I felt very stupid and felt I'd let down my family .. I just did not know who to say something too! Thank you both of you for having the balls to stand up and say hang on a minute .... The more I think the more I could flag up ..
I think Robs been bloody good letting this run!!! If he had of shut this down would we have found out the whole story? No. Well done Rob!
Archer17 I knew nothing until i rang Ghost. Phil is a good guy and his word is good enough for me. But i'll be glad when this thread is gone as now my DD racing good memories are now tarnished. Phil, Maybe i should make a comeback and and add to my trophy and memories :smile:
I also think this thread has helped to talk about this as many knew him. When it's on your doorstep it's suddenly real compared to the other threads and it's easy to complacent To find out a person who you thought was a friend evokes many feelings and to be able to share this is a good thing
Why? It wasn't him that made the difference; it was the experience of doing it with all your mates. Why let someone who made a life deceiving and cheating take that from you?! And thats what he did, short and plain take people in and cover things up. Thats what this kind does. Shocking.
Archer .. There is the wonderful mechanic at Harleston .. My bikes lovingly looked after by him. They will not be going elsewhere!
Paul, You are right mate i loved the racing, it's just who i pitted with piss's me off, Time's a healer! You fancy a comeback in 2013 ? I do :wink:
Finally yes Archer you could have had some nice expensive brackets like mine ... Boy was I cross ... Different thicknesses of metal .. Antique finish.