Fischer Future Heat

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by PerryL, Sep 17, 2020.

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  1. I got it a bit wrong!

    I have been mixing up my daytime and nighttime units! Since yesterday, I have used 7 daytime units and 1 nighttime unit. So, that would be about £1.80 per day, all in, for day and night units and about £1.80 per day for everything, including one shower plus hot water for washing up and washing hands and surfaces.

    So you were all right! I have been ripped off! Fecking snake oil!!! How am I going to afford £1.80 a day for all of my power needs?
     
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  2. Keep going, you'll get there in the end.
    When you really find out what you are paying.
     
  3. Yes, my meter was spinning round like mad... as in, was not moving at all and my gas is still capped. Hard to accept, I know.
     
  4. I was asked to look at a pub near Putney that had been spiked...
    Electrics were a nightmare.
    I said to everyone get a drink and keep still... I'm going to pull the main fuses for a minute to trace some stuff....
    Came back upstairs from the Cellar to find over 1/2 the pub still illuminated, band still on stage practicing and music going.
    Eventually traced it across the park to a transformer.... looks like it had been done for years...
    No primary fuse or meter, just an extra DB in the rear basement.
    Still not sure if it was ever sorted :eyes: :skull: :bomb:
     
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  5. £1 worth electric gets you £1 worth of hot water.
    £1 worth of gas and you'd have had ++£4 worth of hot water...... still as long as you feel better.
     
  6. We think it’s high. There’s only the 2 of us now but big house, €240 every 2 months; roughly €50 of that is the standing charge & Govt green eco levy shite. Per unit cost is €0.17c 24hr rate.
     
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  7. No, it doesn't. That is the whole point. The crystals of Sodium Whatever contain heat energy and that is what heats the water by changing their state from crystal to liquid (or the other way around) - not electricity. That is why you can get hot water with the electricity switched off. I don't get why it rankles you so much. It's installed neatly: it works: I no longer use gas: and my electricity usage is small. I know why it rankles gas fitters so much, because there is no work in it for them. They might even have to lower themselves to answer the telephone in future and learn how to treat customers with respect whle not sucking in air through their teeth, but you are not a dinosaur-global-warming-denying, gas fitter are you?
     
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  9. Many.....many years ago I worked as a commissioning and installation engineer for a company building drying systems, working all over the world with global leaders in sanitary ware, brick manufacturing and pharmaceuticals. The only business to use electricity to generate heat in the drying process was the pharmaceutical industry, it’s super clean and fairly small scale and easier to control. Every other business used gas and in some large brick work dryers I was firing up 11,000,000 btu burners.......now that’s a big “fuck off” flame I can tell you :)
     
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  10. Was that at 8 units per day too?
     
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  11. I know what you mean, I used to look after waste heat boilers with supplementary firing off nominal 25 MW gas turbines, toasty :D
     
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  13. Currently there is a ban from 2025 on gas boilers being fitted to new houses, so alternative methods will be required.

    How is that going to affect us? obviously sales of new boilers will drop, so will the prices go up to compensate?

    Will they eventually ban all sales of gas boilers?

    What are the alternatives?

    Hydrogen Boilers?
    Heat Pumps?
    Solar?
    Electric Boilers?
     
  14. No one sensible believes the ban will happen as there isn't the capacity at the power stations for electric boilers/immersion heaters (aka Fischer) type products.
    There will be some take up with heat pumps and solar.

    Perhaps we should go back to coal fired boilers, open fireplaces with back boilers and Aga's.
    We do have around 300 years worth of coal in them hills and it may stop the left on here winging if we reopened the pits.
     
  15. Right, now my electric readings have gone off the scale, just like you said. In the last 24 hours, after making a pot of coffee and two lattes, a shower, and more washing up then I would like (!), I have used 7 units (Kwh) of daytime and 2 of nighttime.

    Another manual that I haven't read states that it is a BATTERY! So, do you not believe in them either? When Ducati stopped putting kick starts on their bikes, did you refuse the onerous task of pressing a button? Did you believe it all to be the work of the devil? Do you try and bump start your bike rather than believe that a plastic box can contain enough power to start a bike? Perhaps, it is petrol that is the fiddle? It is really the devil's water.

    Time to stop this madness. I will reject it and get down on my hand and knees to get a gas fitter to come and fit me a gas heater. I will get the flue unblocked and whacking out greenhouse gases! Then, all will be right in the World and I won't be bothered by fecking rip-off merchants.... I can so look forward to getting a gas fitter round to suck in air through his teeth and tell me that it is not a straight-forward job!
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  16. Maybe some clevrr folk could work out how to turn dirty coal into cleaner gas.... Wait :thinkingface:
     
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  17. What's the issue with gas boilers in homes? It can't be due to them emitting 'greenhouse' gases ie CO2 can it? It can't be that people believe all electricity is produced by non-polluting means can it? I'm kinda confused coz as far as I'm aware the UK hasn't gone all nuclear for its electricity production. Must be wind and hydro-electric then. OOOOhhh, hang on, there's a lot of steel in each of those wind vane thingys. I seem to recall seeing MASSIVE blast furnaces in steel works before they closed them down - perhaps those furnaces were driven by green electricity as well :thinkingface:
     
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  18. I think that the game is to make other countries make those things and then we import them - whilst dissing that country for producing greenhouse gasses. I think that China is up for it!
     
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  19. That sounds like a good plan:upyeah:. Russia & China burn coal & gas to make electricity which the UK buys in thus avoiding in-country production thus allowing the UK to meet it's climate change targets which the then Govt can brag about whilst at the same berating other countries - bloody genius:upyeah: - the UK Govt has gone up in my estimation.
     
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