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Hamilton Spoiler!

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Arquebus, Nov 6, 2020.

  1. Gotta fess up here. Born in Cumbria, raised in North Yorkshire and live in South Yorkshire. :D
     
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  2. But Lewis battling from last in sprint to finish 5th and from 10th in race to finish 1st isnt? Honestly Mingey, you need to go to specsavers.
     
  3. Err, who’s winning the drivers championship? +2.5 should do it :):upyeah:
     
  4. It aint over till it is over. He may win, he may not. I'm sure you wouldnt want this post to haunt you come the final race result. I personally wouldnt bet against a 7x world champion until its mathematically done. Max isnt even the next best driver. I'd give that to George or Lando. Max is there by dint of his father and some talent. Lewis is where he is purely on talent.
     
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  5. George looks very very good, but lets see what he actually produces before we get too carried away? Max is every bit as as good as anyone else in an F1 car as his win rate this year shows.

    Lando is another with real potential, so is Leclerc buth bot are hampered by their cars.
     
  6. One year? Hamilton beats him hands down IMO. Verstappen is a bully, he hasn't worked out yet, that some drivers wont be bullied.
     
    #486 pauly, Nov 15, 2021
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  7. I always have a wee chuckle at the people who say senna was the goat cos they’ve seen him do that wet lap at donny on YouTube a couple of times.
    It’s Hamilton, Schumacher, Senna, in that order.
    Anything else is just a noise.
     
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  8. In reference to Max, currently Hamilton and every other driver are unable to do just that. Lewis, as a seven times WDC his driving career is summed up by all his seasons of competition and is obviously outstanding. However each individual season is assessed by the wins & the points and if you think Max is not that good, what does that say about Lewis currently?
     
  9. Senna was better than Schumacher, Schumacher said as much just after Senna died.
     
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  10. Lewis doesn't doesn't need to run other drivers way off the road now. Just like Vettel was, Verstappen is being flattered by the Red Bull chassis.
     
  11. Come on, has the Merc engine and chassis not flattered Hamilton over the last seasons?
     
  12. Not the first team he did it in though, was it?
     
  13. You are back to taking Hamilton's career achievements over 14 years to decide on the rankings for the current season. Rather an odd stance, as that approach would make the competition pointless... Especially as the winning of seven championships is why you rate Hamilton!

    None of us have any idea how many teams MV will drive for and /or win WDC's with.
     
    #493 Jez900ie, Nov 15, 2021
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  14. Off the top of my head, Lauda as well as Schumacher won WDC in different teams. Piquet won WDC in three different teams as did Prost so does that make them better than Lewis?
     
  15. Aren't you are a Verstroppen fanboy. Pointless speculating about the future now, or introducing drivers from the past into it, unless you're just trying to muddy the waters.
     
  16. Statistically Hamilton is the goat and it will be many years if ever before that can be challenged. He’s also proven over the years and with two different teams that he is one of the best ever F1 drivers in terms of his car handling and race craft but it is there that he can be challenged. Senna was off the scale with car control and Schumacher when he wasn’t ruthlessly taking everybody else out can lay claim to that too. Those that saw Jim Clark race back in the 60s say even now that they’ve never seen car control like that.
    In every measure apart from titles and stats it’s an impossible question to answer and the same goes for any sport across the generations but where it can be measured Hamilton is the goat
     
    #496 Symon Moore, Nov 15, 2021
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  17. My examples and references were as a counter to , and illustrative of why your arguments defining Hamilton are invalid. If you review your own posts, all the measures which you use to validate your support of Hamilton you have now abandoned.

    I'm not especially a fan of MV. You might have overlooked that I described Hamilton as "obviously outstanding". Seven times WDC with more poles & wins than any driver ever confirms that 100%. It does not mean that when Hamilton is second in the championship (in a fantastic car) that right now, this season he is better than everyone else. The points say otherwise.
     
  18. Schuey won a race in the Benetton if i remember when it was mostly stuck in 5th gear.
    I never said max ‘isnt that good’. I just rate george and lando higher. Mainly george. Lando i may be a bit partisan as i havent paid enough attention.
    Max replaces racecraft with aggression. He is also a whingey brat whos crying because the bigger boy keeps winning. Consistency is what matters. Everyone can drive a stormer now and agsin. To do it consistently is another matter. Plus he may have had a terrific car, but then you have to deliver. Lewis has proved he can. Consistently. Every single season lewis has either challenged for the the title or won it. As George put it - Lewis is an absolute beast.
     
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  19. Nine wins by MV this season must considered consistent surely?

    Lewis has not always been so consistently at the top at all. Certainly he has for the last eight years.
     
  20. This is the 1st time rb have since seb. How much of that is mercs tepid season and how much rbs gain is debateable but he hasnt up until now and the jury has to be out until another season or two. Hes only really starting to get going.
     
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