I LOL'd. I've broken two vertebrae plus other important bones. As such it was much easier to man-up in my case. You make a convincing case, fin. I'm sold. How is your gender re-assignment going, by the way? Hope it's OK to ask that in public.
not bad not to bad atoll, are we still meeting up when the swelling goes down? or up if you know what i mean. dirty loz dirty dirty loz.
Uh, fin, it's Elise you meet, not me! I'm flattered, naturally, but it can't happen ... you know how jealous whassiname gets
You have to speak as you find. I've been treated by both for the same condition: severe back pain after a bad crash and found both to be effective. I saw one osteopath for more than twenty years and found him to be great. But when he died and I consulted another one I found him to be less effective so sought other remedies. The back clinic I now attend bases its therapies on chiropractic I believe. But offers much more. You are very assertive about a lot of things Pete. Perhaps with good reason. But are you sure there is no evidence chiropractic works? You should ask the other patients I see at the clinic, who all give it ringing endorsements. I shuffled in there in severe pain with a variety of long-established musculoskeletal problems, had x-rays that revealed the root of the problem - even to a layman like myself - and halfway through the treatment programme can walk upright and ride my bike again. That's enough evidence for me but I believe other evidence does exist. At the end of the programme, further x-rays will, it is hoped, confirm that the alignment of my spine - and in particular that of my cervical vertebrae that I could see on the x-ray remain out of place as a result of a whiplash injury - have improved. I was very sceptical about the therapy offered, which is not expensive by any means, but was open-minded enough to try it. I'm so glad that I did. The major difference between an Osteopath and a chiropractor is that while the chiropractor is primarily focused on the spine and joints (and the muscles too, to a point), an Osteopath is also concerned with the rest of the body. He or she might treat patients with respiratory problems, digestive problems or any other number of problems that might not seem related to the spine or joints. Typically chiropractors will use what they call "Adjustments" , which are as specific as possible and aimed at restoring joint position and function. Osteopaths typically take a broader approach and may treat a larger area. Chiropractors engage in research as a profession more than osteopathy, but both professions are trained to undergraduate level so any claims that the former are charlatans might better be laid at the DOE rather than at those whose suffering has been relived by them don't you think?
"you have to speak as you find" I can speak of finding chiropractors to be a complete bunch of quacks. This after 20 years experience using more than half a dozen. You want me to back this up more? Have you read War and peace? I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule but it's osteopath every time for me.
Physio every time. I've got no trust in Chiros, only ever heard of pain, suffering and financial loss. I only burst one vertebra, just a scratch really. Still got the unopened packet of tramadol, said I'd save it for when I was better and could enjoy it!
I am amazed it took you 20 years to find out that a therapy didn't work for you! I'd have given up long before. I have just had my fifth treatment and have no pain as I sit typing this. That would have been unthinkable a few weeks ago. Different strokes for different folks. As I say, I was very sceptical before I started the treatment.
Chiropractors are perhaps nothing more than faith-healers, but it would appear to me that they fill a gap in the market. This gap is created when a patient goes to his doctor for chronic pain and comes out of the surgery with a prescription for paracetamol and the news that there is nothing more that can be done. A faith-healer is no use to me - entirely lacking faith as I do - but perhaps there are those who benefit from a few kind words and some harmless pulling of arms and legs. I've been to an osteopath for a frozen neck/shoulder - my girlfriend at the time nagged me into it. I was surprised and delighted when my symptoms abated after a couple of treatments and some sound advice on prevention. If treatment works - then it works, regardless of whether it should do or not.
I wrecked my back levering an old door frame out. I eventually went to see an osteopath who had me more flexible after 3 sessions than I was in the first place. Best money I ever spent. She gave me an exercise to do if I get any twinges and it works very time. Brilliant!
Homeopathy also works ... to the same extent that placebos work, but no more. The NHS pays for some homeopathic treatments and similar quackery. In the modern world, that is the means by which placebos are delivered to patients.
Pete. It's not a placebo. I've seen the x-rays. As I said, I was sceptical too. It remains to be seen whether I stay out of pain though. And, admittedly, this clinic offers more than pure chiropractic. Please read my post comparing osteopathy and chiropractic. They have more similarities than differences and chiropractic, with its reliance on x-rays, is arguably the more evidence-based therapy.
