Is The Game Up ?

And not just the engine noise but the engine characteristics play a huge part in the riding experience of (different) motorcycles.

Compare the feel of e.g. a V4 Panigale, a V4 Diavel, a Bevel, a Yamaha 900 triple, a GS, a Honda NC750, a Suzuki GSXR, a Harley... etc

 

The difference is you spend that time every single time you fill up. I don’t, in the past year I have used public chargers once a month max, all the rest have been a few seconds. I am not irritated but somewhat bored by repetition of the same old tropes that don’t match reality. I have been away for a few days with work, covered over 2000 miles with less than 50 minutes on public chargers. Total cost £28. Car fun to drive? I have had all sorts of cars, including kit cars, Porsche turbos. Lotus, TVR. Nothing comes close to two wheels and EVs are just as much fun as any car I owned. Pissing off saddos with bean can exhausts being a particular high point Interesting that you consider not accepting BS as rude, sadly all too prevalent in the modern world. Far too many- ‘You don’t accept my uninformed viewpoint therefore you are being rude to me’. I will post my real world experience of EV ownership, if that offends you, oh well, never mind, I’m sure you will get over it (or Google some other rubbish).

 

I’ll never go back to ICE cars now, if you have a garage or driveway to charge at home it’s a no brainer. Wake up every morning to a full tank with over 350 miles of range, for my driving I almost never need public charging. Electric is just far more enjoyable driving, immense power immediately available on tap.

Not sold on electric motorbikes though, bikers are such an insignificantly small source of pollution that they should honestly be exempt from Euro emmission regulations. If the vast cost sunk in fiddling engines to meet arbitrary carbon numbers hadn’t driven the cost of bikes up we might see more people on bikes and less single occupant cars swamping the roads

 

EV’s are wank. And that’s the end of it. There

And as for everyone frapping themselves over the amaaaazing acceleration, manufacturers will 100% dial down such amazingness once the state have coaxed enough mugs into them. Double there.

You can shove EV’s up yer arse. Triple there.

 

I tempted to buy one of these TBH to replace my Diesel Vito, i'll try and find what it's range is.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202502289596057?advertising-location=at_vans

 

Whilst my car is only a hybrid, I much prefer driving it in EV mode. Instant smooth power with no break that you will never get in any petrol engine.

 

Interesting. Do you think you would feel the same about a bike?

 

No idea til i try one.
I appreciate that sound is way more part of a bike than a car but no doubt it wouldn't be difficult to get used to it if the riding experience was better.

 

I’d have a go if it was bikes or nothing tbf

 

Been thinking of an EV for a while now but not many spark much interest in terms of the styling, range, equipment level or are at a price that is affordable. I did stumble across this and whilst it does hail from China (and with the recent introduction of Omada and Jaecoo, to add to the other Asian brands already in the UK) this won't be far behind, with the company planning to expand their worldwide dealer network. Quality of the cars from this region, particularly EVs has had to improve or they just won't survive on the world stage.

Doubtless import tariffs and duty will send the price considerably north of the US$40K it is currently selling for, so will probably put paid to any notion of driving one, but it is currently being offered through a UK salary sacrifice scheme by a singular company. It unashamedly shares several design cues from a Porsche Taycan but at a third of the price. Oh and they also do an SU7 Ultra version that is bonkers fast (1500bhp and 0-60 in 1.98 sec anyone?). They sold the entire year's production of 10,000 SU7 Ultra model cars in under 2 hours of it's public unveiling at a price of US$72K. (1500bhp and 0-60 in 1.98 sec anyone?). However, the SU7 Max (Twin motor) is the model that ticks a few of the boxes for me. Here are some of the key specs.

Power AWD 664 bhp (495 kW)
Torque 618 lb-ft (838 Nm)
Acceleration 2.8 sec 0-62 mph
Max speed 165 mph (265 km/h)

Charging time is allegedly 10-80% in 19 mins
CLTC range is claimed as 497 miles