I feel that a junior doctor is still in training on the first rung of the ladder and although they often make difficult decisions they are supervised decisions (the more important ones anyway) yet they want to be paid comparable to someone who is more experienced. I also don't think that 5 years training to that point entitles them to special privileges, there are other professions with similar or even longer training periods. Rejecting 11% is taking the piss. Comparing them to a recently qualified lawyer isn't particularly relevant in my opinion. GP's are a separate issue, and they didn't negotiate what is a very good deal, they were handed it on a plate by Labour. Think on this, a GP practice is run as a business, is given so much per registered patient and what they don't get to spend on patients the practice gets to keep.
i think my mates issue is the out of hours issue which leads to overloading of A+E. believe it or not i aint to fussed what people on the whole get paid. tax issues bother me more. tax cuts for one and rises for others seems to be a bit skewed at the mo, i recon that causes more offense than a doc getting paid for their hours i will ask him for more detail. still seem a bit confused is it a pay rise or cut? guess it don't affect me anyhoo or will it impact Barnet?
I thought he same... Until I moved in with one. Holidays are spent writing reports, marking and planning. If we go out Saturday and Sunday, Sunday evening there are usually tears as she shouldn't have gone out to have personal time, but should have spent Saturday doing her lesson plans and marking. No time for a personal life.
So , did start after you moved in? See it's all your fault. The kids suffering, their education is suffering, take the bike out more
We also need to remember the nhs is not a free health service, we pay taxes to fund it , if you have a road traffic accident the nhs can claim from your insurer etc. foreign nationals( outside the eu ) are ment to pay though.
Retired people get paid too much . Get a pension for sitting at home giving off about everything, including their pension
It would be interesting to hear from someone in Germany, but as well as respecting engineers highly, when it comes to healthcare, my understanding is that there are major differences, and: - In general, outcomes are good, probably better than UK (OECD reports etc) - Germany has insurance-based healthcare, but with plenty of safeguards to protect the poor and those with ill-health (not to be compared with US - more with other European models). No state monopolisation as with NHS. Those on decent incomes do I think pay quite a lot (mandatory) but at least it's clear when you are paying for healthcare; in the UK nobody has any idea what they are paying for it (NI has very little to do with it). - More doctors, and they are paid less than in the UK - Overall spending on healthcare probably higher than the UK, but not as high as France
I agree with the GP part however the first part is inaccurate. I don't think anyone is asking for special privileges. 11% is a cracking deal if it actually meant that but what they're actually doing is reclassifying the normal working hours. When they've done this in other Allied Health professions they've ended up having to recruit greater numbers of full time staff to cover the 24 hour period which means a greater number of full time salaries going out rather than relying on the good will of those prepared to stay a bit later to get the job done. Because of a training short fall in many areas we've ended up with huge numbers of locum and agency staff across the NHS. The government has pledged to put a cap on the amount spent on such staff but they're not exactly making the right moves to encourage folk to stay in it are they...... And thus healthcare will inevitably be privatised in my lifetime
It sounds like you have some personal knowledge relating to this subject and as usual the devil is in the detail. One thing I do not approve of is relying upon goodwill. Most people are prepared to do a little extra on occasion but if it is being systematically relied upon then something is wrong. I can't see the NHS being privatised any time soon but I can certainly see an increase in insurance based healthcare provision.
I think the problem lies in their inability to practice what they preach regarding candour. If they came out and said "we're skint, we're going to have to drop your wages or else we're going under" it might not taste as sour. I'm not a doctor but I've worked in and around medical imaging for 15 years both in private and public sector. At least in the private sector the boss had the balls to be honest with his staff. What I've seen since has led me to find that the bigger the organisation, the bigger the lies. I agree, it won't be privatised soon, but the whole GP commissioning thing means that they're more and more likely to buy services from private providers. It's not a wholly bad thing but the NHS as we know it might well be reduced to A&E emergency centres and regional specialist hospitals. Again not necessarily bad.
The entire NHS is built upon a structure of assumed goodwill. How many times in the past has someone expressed the opinion that "healthcare is a vocation and a calling, you do it for love not money"? When you consider just how hard, how harrowing and occasionally, how hazardous a job it is being a nurse, an ER doctor, a paramedic, etc etc and then look at wages and salaries and hours worked and working conditions ... how can anyone escape the conclusion that the NHS relies wholly upon goodwill and going the extra mile for its very existence?
