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Mm Strikes Again

Discussion in 'Racing & Bike Sport' started by John Mac821, Jun 16, 2023.

  1. Exactly! Manufacturers are in it to win and thus promote their brand - nothing more.
     
  2. Never off the podium? This could become the new normal…..

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  3. 2002 Rossi wins first moto gp title by 140 points, winning 11 out of 16 races, coming second in all the others except one retirement.

    2003 Rossi wins his second mgp title by 80 points winning 9 of 16 rounds including PI where he started with a 10 second penalty and won the race by over 10 seconds.

    2004 The Sete Gibernau season



    As much as I loved Rossi and he will always be the goat to me, the racing/close competition was largely dull or non existent (barring a few Stoner/Rossi corkscrew moments etc…), unlike today. I think people are deliberately choosing to forget that.
     
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  4. Didn't work for UTD :joy:
     
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  5. Oh yes it did. They were perennial relagation battlers. This yr, 3rd?

    Unless you mean Man Utd. They earn what they spend. I have no complaints despite hating them obviously. But they earnt their revenues and play by the FFP rules.

    Chelsea? Man City? Newcastle? Cheaters, financial dopers and apologists for nation state human right abusers. Where a trophy is more valuable than a life.
     
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  6. I don't think it was just Rossi getting 'Special tyres' it was any factory Michelin team. In WSBK Colin Edwards and Troy Bayliss were also getting tyres flown in on saturday night, this is exactly why the single make stuff had to happen.
     
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  7. I remember a very promising young & possibly a bit on the wild side racer, who was told very forcefully by not only DORNA but also by his fellow riders, that he needed to calm down or his racing licence could be in jeopardy, one could be forgiven for coming to the conclusion that "the rule book" is applied according to (a) who you are & (b) how much of a fuss your team will make in support of you in the event of any penalty being given out. The same happens in F1 which has become so boring I don't bother any more.
    Incidentally, that aforementioned young rider was one Marco Simoncelli, sadly now departed but very much missed.
     
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  8. No because when i was a 20 year old kid i didnt give a shit about tyres, he was just the most charismatic sportsman id ever watched and i wanted in.

    (never bought a tshirt though :) )
     
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  9. Um, yes :joy: Andy
     
  10. But then unlike football you won’t get a Leicester winning the title on a relative shoestring in comparison to the big 4 in that season.

    It’ll be interesting to see if NUFC splurge a ton of petro dollars into building a team or stick with mostly what they have both players and manager.
     
  11. NUFC finished below MUFC in 4th, Man City 1st Arsenal 2nd MUFC 3rd and NUFC 4th.

    You’d need to take Mike Ashley, the PL and the government to task for the sale to the Saudis, not the club which is an entity that can be bought and sold at the owners whim.

    Man U possibly play by the FFP rules as they have to as the owners either won’t or can’t spend big money. Plenty of my work colleagues moan about how little MUFC spend on occasion.
     
  12. ManU have spent loads of money, I know their wage bill is the highest of any team in PL by quite some margin. They need to sell players to get the wage bill down. Their problem is they have spent badly.
    But there are lots of teams who want to be in the PL.

    MotoGP is different, the grid is not full with most likely Yamaha leaving soon and maybe Honda to follow.
    That will leave 3 manufacturers, already 8 Ducatis.
    Contrast with F1 where F1 is turning teams away and applicants are having to buy existing team to get in.
     
  13. Sorry. I dont agree. The club takes the money. The fans accept it too. Ive already dropped my club, like ive also dropped the EPL. Im now 100% behind Queen of the South. Were terrible, but its honest.
    I also blame the Saudis for instead of being s bit less killy choppy, they choose to spend their nation’s wealth masturbating themselves with trinkets.
     
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  14. Who wouldn’t want the money of the PL.

    Indeed, I could see both the Japanese teams leaving MotoGP in the near future.

    I don’t follow F1 despite vaguely knowing 2 peeps that work in F1 teams, no not any of the drivers…..:)
     
  15. I was referring to the recent F1 budget cap that seems to have triggered a lot of teams wanting to enter F1. Some are threatening to get legal if F1 don't let them enter yet Dorner can't fill the grid.
     
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  16. Weren't suzuki the smallest team in the paddock, they won a championship not too long ago
     
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  17. Don’t know, maybe Aprilia/KTM are smaller had less pedigree than Suzuki in the Blue Ribbon class.
     
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