Thanks you for that helpful analysis @Zhed46 . I take your point - a court or tribunal must hear all those who are actually party to proceedings, but audi alterem does not generally oblige it to join extra parties who apply, in this case Lorenzo. Worth a shot, though.
Good point. I had not really considered Marquez taking a dive as an option, since as you rightly say in motorsports (unlike football) it is extremely rare for there to be circumstances where there would be any advantage in doing it. Considering it now, I think your opinion is probably right. In the highly unusual position which arose at Sepang, a Marquez dive is the most likely explanation for an otherwise inexplicable incident, for the reasons you set out. This leads to the next question: Is it against the rules? Is there anything in rules of Moto racing against a rider laying his own bike down? I don't know, but I suspect not.
blimey, the legal types even manage to draft in more suspicions and legal etiquette when not on a free lunch. Bravo.
Seems I'm not the only one who has thought about the possibility of Marquez jumping off on purpose. Unfortunately I can't read the article without having a subscription.
How did you see that timbers You have good eyesight :sunglasses: MM went to ram Rossi but it went wrong this time and down he went It pains me to say but they are as bad as each other
something else.. dont know if this has been mentioned or not ... MM is claiming a kick to his brake lever locked the wheel and took him out but immediately after the race he was quoted as saying "i dont expect to be kicked in the head during a race". which was it? head or brake lever? or was it 2 kicks? so fast that the camera didnt catch it.. who we dealing with here? Rossi or Chuck fuckn Norris?
Unfortunately when bad people do bad things, they usually act clandestinely*. They work their evil deeds when no-one is looking. They try to destroy whatever evidence might exist, and try to suppress witnesses. Not often is the story clearcut. The wrongdoer who is accused of conspiring with others to commit crimes routinely accuses the accusers of conspiring to bring false allegations. Some conspiracies really exist, others don't. Sorting the wheat from the chaff is the difficult job of police, prosecutors and courts. Having insufficient data is normal. * There are exceptions, such as currently the Islamic State.
:Wacky::Wacky: So Rossi is innocent and the Islamic State did it ?? Never saw that one coming :Jawdrop::Jawdrop:
That's all very interesting but nobody is talking about a conspiracy. Saying that MM has been trying to sabotage VR's championship isn't a conspiracy as a conspiracy is an agreement between 2 or more people to carry out an act. Presumably however, MM was acting alone and spontaneously in reaction to Rossi running him out to the edge of the track. That's not a conspiracy by its ordinary definition. Secondly, in common parlance, a conspiracy theory is one which involves postulating that secret elements of the authorities have or are carrying out and/or covering up illegal or immoral acts or hiding controversial information, but that definition clearly doesn't apply to this set of facts. As far as I'm aware, nobody is accusing Dorna's agents of standing behind a grassy knoll with a large magnet to draw VR and MM to the edge of the track, only then to shoot MM's front tyre out PS: The syntax/grammar of the quote attributed to Prof(?) Tyson is a bit mangled, so it may be worth checking if that's what he actually said and that it's not just something which somebody on social media has attributed to him or they have misquoted. A few years ago there was a plague of photos and quotes on social media which attributed all sorts of wise words to that well known social commentator and moral philosopher Marilyn Monroe, most of which, on closer inspection, turned out to be utter bunk.
Reality check duly noted (I hope) That's a good theory. Plus, some guy on the internet said it's true so there you go! The case is solv-ved