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1200 Moving From A 2010 To Twin Spark..thoughts?

Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by AirCon, Aug 29, 2014.

  1. My missus wanted an island in the kitchen, so I bought a pool table :D
    We had a cover for it when it needed to be a worktop / table. Got away with that for a few years before I had to give in.

    No need to move the wall mate, just wheel a few tool chests and a workmate in there, see how you get on ;)
    It'll be closer to the kettle too, plus you can use the dish washer for bike parts, and the sink too :D
     
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  2. I must video you getting on your Mutley..... Very funny.:Finger:
     
  3. thats not poncy, thats necessity ;)
     
  4. Anyone selling a recent low mileage Pikes Peak with a full termis and heated grips?
     
  5. Not quite... My QDs will be up for sale soon (was getting the end caps powder coated black), and my Skyhook Touring S is for sale... Not a PP though...
     
  6. See Veetwin's post above...

    He's a mate of mine - and a much better rider than me - so maybe you should pay more attention to him. However, having had a 2012 Touring for 2 years and 23k miles and then had a demo 2014 Skyhook version for a week, ahead of a planned change, I opted to keep the 2012 version.

    I disagree with the view that the Skyhook is better - I just thought it was harsh and lacked all the subtlety of the Ohlins set-up. I also thought that the twin-spark head failed to address the poor slow-speed running; all it did was add more oomph - not something the bike particularly needed! Finally, whilst the wind protection is poor on a stock 2012 bike it's positively appalling on the new bikes.

    Still, maybe now Audi will let Ducati finally put a bike in a wind-tunnel and learn something about aerodynamics for riders who aren't midgets!

    ;););)
     
  7. The big difference is the faster you go better the SH gets. Ohlins is an 'average' based fork, ie you set it up for how you want most of the time, where SH being adaptive does just that: changes to the circumstamces. I find it works best at fast sweeping type turns where you have really bumpy surface, it tracks and just grips, where the non adaptive stuff can only work within the average range.

    I only use mine in Touring, almost never in sport, or urban if in town a bit and filtering

    I'll tell you how much of a convert I am: if I were to go and buy a new sports bike right now, it would be the HP4 because it has similar adaptive suspension.
     
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  8. There's a Pikes Peak on Ebay at present and he'll take £15,750, only 4K miles (March 2013).
    Given that he only paid £17K for it (if you take off the £1K of free extras they give you).
    £1250 lost in 18 months, not bad.

    If I going to pay that much I want a full termis (for a 2nd hand bike).
     
  9. Thanks for that insight, useful.

    My concern is that when comparing a well set up Ohlins to a test ride the front pre-load will be factory set for a 6 stone teenage racing centipede rider and not a more mature 18 stone middle aged man. This means the clever trickery in the suspension will have to stiffen the compression / rebound to try and keep the front end right.


    There is an awful lot of crap discussed on here and at the cafes about Skyhook and Ohlins.
    I'd sure 98% of the riders out there have not adjusted the pre-load correctly.
    The reason I'm so sure of that percentage is that I've not met a single skyhook rider that even knew that they needed to adjust the front pre-load. And of the Ohlin riders, well they all tend to be harder to kidnap that your average Italian rider and the single rate spring fitted as standard just ain't man enough even on maximum pre-load.
    I'm two spring rates up at the front and rear.
    At least the Skyhook uses a progressive rate spring.

    Has any real (sorry, heavier) riders of Skyhooks ever uprated the springs?
     
  10. For £15750 you can have mine with full termi and heated grips,venture shield,3600 miles,26/04/13,3rd year warranty.
     
  11. Nope, not needed to, haven't measured the sag on the front of mine but it behaves perfectly and never has any settling issues. Plus, if I make the front firmer it will raise the ride height a little: last thing I need.
     
  12. I agree with Bradders the Skyhook does get better with a bit of progress, however you can still catch it out. Fast sweeping bends with a great surface in France this year and in Touring mode the back end was wallowing a bit, tried the same section of road (several times!) again and it Sport mode it was just fine.
    I have checked the preload on mine and it was just fine for a 12st rider. I now rate the Sachs over Ohlins on the MultiStrada but it took a few weeks to get my head round what it was doing. I still think that the feedback from the Ohlins is better than the Sachs but once you trust the Sachs / Skyhook set up it is a better solution. IMO
     
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  13. Quote by ACT 'The reason I'm so sure of that percentage is that I've not met a single skyhook rider that even knew that they needed to adjust the front pre-load.'

    ACT, any tips on how to get the front pre-load right then? Did you set it up on a sag measurement and if so what did you go for? Total travel is given as 170mm in the specs so should I set it at about 57mm sag (one third total)? And confirm clockwise on the adjuster nut to increase pre-load? Thanks
     
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  15. To follow...when not so full of Guinness.
     
  16. didn't realise you had a video on the bike ;)
     
  17. OK....I've done it....:Shifty:
    October 2013 Pikes Peak....Tomorrow
    :Nailbiting::Nailbiting::Nailbiting::Nailbiting::Nailbiting::Nailbiting::Nailbiting::Nailbiting::Nailbiting::Nailbiting::Nailbiting:

    :Happy::Happy::Happy::Happy::Happy::Happy::Happy::Happy::Happy::Happy::Happy::Happy:
     
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  18. Many Congrats, that's a vintage year! :upyeah:

    When you set the pre-load let me know what you did. (I am about 13st in kit). :):)

    Thanks
     
  19. Err....um...I'll chop off an arm or may be a leg.
    Last time I was that weight I was running around a rugby field in Farnham (back in the 80s).
     
  20. Actually I'd kill to be that weight naked....think about that people.
     
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